Lizard vs Xenomorph queen.

Started by riv66729 pages

as just merely tossing cars might not necessarily make anyone capable of beheading larger opponents with merely their bare hands!

Why not.

Originally posted by riv6672
Why not.
Cause just simply picking up cars and toss them may not always necessarily show/mean that the opponent is capable of ripping off heads of larger creatures &/while Queen Xenomorphs may NOT be as fragile as you guys think!

I don’t think she’s fragile.
I’m not lowballing picking up and tossing cars either.

I would like to see a fight like this. It depends on how much the acid effects lizard

Originally posted by riv6672
I’m not lowballing picking up and tossing cars either..

Also, picking up and tossing cars might not always produce the exact amount of force comparable to literally ripping larger opponents apart within seconds.

But it might. 😛

Originally posted by riv6672
But it might. 😛

Actually picking up cars to toss them isn't entirely necessarily the same as ripping off larger opponents head cause some other average level superheroes have been shown to have lifted & toss cars while there is no proof that it is and/or whether Lizard could rip off the Queen Xenomorph's head (as the titular Spiderman of the movie with the word, "Amazing" in it's title may not be too much in-terms of Strength like his other live-action adaptations/versions do) so if there is try to show that to me or how is that so?!

You’re just talking in circles, man.

Originally posted by riv6672
You’re just talking in circles, man.
So that's what i've repeated numerous times, the Xenomorph Queen is particularly deemed more resilient to nearly most forms of physical/conventional damage than any other Xenomorph.

And picking up and tossing cars gives more credence to the head ripping off argument than it takes away.

Lizard overpowered Spidey every time they fought. The same Spidey who in the sequel stopped a bus being pushed by an 18 wheeler. The same Spidey who easily caught a car falling from like 40 feet in the air.

Xenomorph Queen got taken down by Scar the Predator and a human. Lizard demolishes her.

Originally posted by riv6672
And picking up and tossing cars gives more credence to the head ripping off argument than it takes away.

So i was trying to ask how does picking up and tossing cars makes Lizard capable of ripping off the Queen Xenomorph's head (& give more credence to that?)!

Originally posted by KingD19
Lizard overpowered Spidey every time they fought. The same Spidey who in the sequel stopped a bus being pushed by an 18 wheeler. The same Spidey who easily caught a car falling from like 40 feet in the air.

Xenomorph Queen got taken down by Scar the Predator and a human. Lizard demolishes her.


But the Queen Xenomorph in the classic 1980s' Aliens movie survived being hit by P-5000 Powered Work Loader that falls on to her & some beatings from it without so much damage so she shouldn't be that vulnerable as you think.

Originally posted by Tyrannoraptor
But the Queen Xenomorph in the classic 1980s' Aliens movie survived being hit by P-5000 Powered Work Loader that falls on to her & some beatings from it without so much damage so she shouldn't be that vulnerable as you think.

Here's the issue with that...so?

The Power Loader is an industrial powered exo-skeleton that can lift up to 4,000kg. Which equals 8,818lbs. Which is equal to roughly 4 1/2 tons. And for heavy lifting it's suggested you attach 250kg of concrete to the frame to stabilize it so it doesn't tip over.

That means a power loader can life a small to mid-sized sedan at maximum capability. Lizard was tossing them out of his way like they weighed nothing and he constantly overpowered Spidey who as I pointed out has some insane strength feats. Like digging his feet into concrete to stop a city bus being pushed by a big rig. A city bus can be anywhere from 25,000lbs to 40,000lbs. That's 12 1/2 tons to 20 tons. And a semi-truck cab is usually between 19,000lbs and 23,000lbs, so 9.5 tons to 11.5 tons.

On the low end if we combine both weights at their lowest, that's 22 TONS pushing against his back. And the weight is increased because of the momentum. So Spidey stopped almost 6 times the weight of what a power loader can even lift. And Lizard easily outmuscled him whenever they fought. He has far more of a chance of ripping the Xeno Queen's head off than he doesn't. You're acting like her taking some hits from the loader would be anywhere near taking hits from Lizard with his strength combined with his claws.

In AvP Scar and a human woman took down the Queen with help from some weapons and the environment. She's not that impressive of a monster in comparison.

Originally posted by KingD19
Here's the issue with that...so?

The Power Loader is an industrial powered exo-skeleton that can lift up to 4,000kg. Which equals 8,818lbs. Which is equal to roughly 4 1/2 tons. And for heavy lifting it's suggested you attach 250kg of concrete to the frame to stabilize it so it doesn't tip over.

That means a power loader can life a small to mid-sized sedan at maximum capability. Lizard was tossing them out of his way like they weighed nothing and he constantly overpowered Spidey who as I pointed out has some insane strength feats. Like digging his feet into concrete to stop a city bus being pushed by a big rig. A city bus can be anywhere from 25,000lbs to 40,000lbs. That's 12 1/2 tons to 20 tons. And a semi-truck cab is usually between 19,000lbs and 23,000lbs, so 9.5 tons to 11.5 tons.

On the low end if we combine both weights at their lowest, that's 22 TONS pushing against his back. And the weight is increased because of the momentum. So Spidey stopped almost 6 times the weight of what a power loader can even lift. And Lizard easily outmuscled him whenever they fought. He has far more of a chance of ripping the Xeno Queen's head off than he doesn't. You're acting like her taking some hits from the loader would be anywhere near taking hits from Lizard with his strength combined with his claws.


But also not just that if not enough, the Queen Xenomorph in AvP movie has smashed all the way through a whale's ribcage & has nearly knocked down a water tank (the one which is before the Predator & Lex Woods used it to defeat the Queen Xenomorph) while chasing Lex Woods.

Originally posted by Tyrannoraptor
But also not just that if not enough, the Queen Xenomorph in AvP movie has smashed all the way through a whale's ribcage & has nearly knocked down a water tank (the one which is before the Predator & Lex Woods used it to defeat the Queen Xenomorph) while chasing Lex Woods.

A whale that had been frozen in the ice for decades so it was old and brittle. And nearly isn't the same as did.

The feats speak for themselves.

Originally posted by KingD19
In AvP Scar and a human woman took down the Queen with help from some weapons and the environment. She's not that impressive of a monster in comparison.

Or the yautja or just that impressive. You failed to note how durable the xenomorphs and how strong the yaitja are when scar swung one through a solid concrete pillar.

And @ riv. What he is trying to say is that Lizards hands are to damn small to behead a queen. It does not matter how strong you are when you are unable to apply it effectively.

Superman can't rip off a Kaijjs head from Pacific Ri. Despite them being made out of Styrofoam. Because they are to large not because he is not strong enough. If he grew to 150 ft tall he would do so casuly even with the same strength

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Or the yautja or just that impressive. You failed to note how durable the xenomorphs and how strong the yaitja are when scar swung one through a solid concrete pillar.

And @ riv. What he is trying to say is that Lizards hands are to damn small to behead a queen. It does not matter how strong you are when you are unable to apply it effectively.

Superman can't rip off a Kaijjs head from Pacific Ri. Despite them being made out of Styrofoam. Because they are to large not because he is not strong enough. If he grew to 150 ft tall he would do so casuly even with the same strength

???

Then what's the point? He's trying to say that Lizard still stomps, but not specifically through beheading? That's the hill he wants to die on? He replied to me, and I never said a thing about beheading. Just that Lizard stomps hard and quickly.

And even if, for some reason, we all focus on that specific argument, the size difference between the Queen and Lizard isn't anywhere near as drastic as your example. She's around 4.5 meters tall. That with how skinny her neck is? Lizard could just swipe through her neck with his claws.

If creepy-pink-hybrid-baby can rip a xeno queen's face off with a single swipe (Alien Resurrection), then the Lizard who is stronger than Spider-Man can do so as well. Nothing's changed in the five years this thread was made to indicate the Lizard wouldn't shit-stomp here.