Lizard vs Xenomorph queen.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Oh, ok. Let's do this. I'll get a gun, and you aim dodge. Shouldn't be a problem for you.

Like he dodged that bullet?

He wouldn't tank getting ripped in half or a decap.

It wasn't injured, it was just an ability they had. AvP isn't really canon so the only other time this ability could have been used was in Resurrection again when they busted out of the cell. Maybe the Aliens just wanted more acid than they could spit? Who knows, the point is they can do it.

Are you saying people can't?

Didn't know acid blood travelled as fast as bullets now

Dacap maybe not. Half shouldn't be a problem

It was an ability one had. Hardly the standard when no other one did it in 4-6 films and we have more instances where they have to injure to use it. But if you don't wanna include AVP then we can't include that queen's feats either

Originally posted by juggerman
Are you saying people can't?

Didn't know acid blood travelled as fast as bullets now

Dacap maybe not. Half shouldn't be a problem

It was an ability one had. Hardly the standard when no other one did it in 4-6 films and we have more instances where they have to injure to use it. But if you don't wanna include AVP then we can't include that queen's feats either

Yeah, people don't normally dodge bullets fired from 5 feet away irl. Especially while climbing a ladder.

The point is he wasn't even aware that the bullet was coming.

He didn't recover from any damage that bad in the movie.

Just because they didn't use it often doesn't mean they don't have it. And in a forum battle the Aliens would be fighting to the best of their abilities. The Queen still has her Aliens feats. Taking a power loader head on and all that.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, people don't normally dodge bullets fired from 5 feet away irl. Especially while climbing a ladder.

The point is he wasn't even aware that the bullet was coming.

He didn't recover from any damage that bad in the movie.

Just because they didn't use it often doesn't mean they don't have it. And in a forum battle the Aliens would be fighting to the best of their abilities. The Queen still has her Aliens feats. Taking a power loader head on and all that.

Are the Xenos irl? We are talking about movies here and in movies, normal people aim dodge all the time. Hell even irl people do it

CIS/PIS

He recovered limbs easily. Also he was riddled with bullets which would have severly damaged every part of his body and he healed easily. He can come back from being sliced in two

For all we know the only xeno that could do it was the only that did. And the queen has not shown this ability so we can't assume she has it. Also, without AVP the queen is much slower and smaller. That makes it easier for Lizard

Originally posted by juggerman
Are the Xenos irl? We are talking about movies here and in movies, normal people aim dodge all the time. Hell even irl people do it

CIS/PIS

He recovered limbs easily. Also he was riddled with bullets which would have severly damaged every part of his body and he healed easily. He can come back from being sliced in two

For all we know the only xeno that could do it was the only that did. And the queen has not shown this ability so we can't assume she has it. Also, without AVP the queen is much slower and smaller. That makes it easier for Lizard

Okay, provide some example of people dodging gunfire the way that Alien did.

CIS would be in effect here, so...

Recovering a limb is not the same as recovering from a decap.

We have no reason to assume that, it wasn't some special breed or hybrid, it wasn't modified. Maybe, but I'm mostly counting on the Queen's natural defenses and strength.

Lizard can tear the queen apart more easily than she can tear lizard apart.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Okay, provide some example of people dodging gunfire the way that Alien did.

CIS would be in effect here, so...

Recovering a limb is not the same as recovering from a decap.

We have no reason to assume that, it wasn't some special breed or hybrid, it wasn't modified. Maybe, but I'm mostly counting on the Queen's natural defenses and strength.

Provide me a feat of Xenos dodging bullets like Spidey

Can't have it both ways. Either they fight to the very best of their abilities or the suffer from CIS. You seem to want the Xenos to fight at top form but Lizard and Spidey will be fighting poorly

I said he probably wouldn't come back from decap

We have no reason to assume the quenn can do things she hasn't been shown to do just like we can't assume Lizard and come back from having his head removed. It was a different type of Xeno and therefore may be capable of things other types can't do

Lizard could pull the queen's head off. Any acid spray wouldn't matter

Originally posted by juggerman
Provide me a feat of Xenos dodging bullets like Spidey

Can't have it both ways. Either they fight to the very best of their abilities or the suffer from CIS. You seem to want the Xenos to fight at top form but Lizard and Spidey will be fighting poorly

I said he probably wouldn't come back from decap

We have no reason to assume the quenn can do things she hasn't been shown to do just like we can't assume Lizard and come back from having his head removed. It was a different type of Xeno and therefore may be capable of things other types can't do

Lizard could pull the queen's head off. Any acid spray wouldn't matter

I provided you with a feat of Aliens dodging lasers, that's enough to tag Spider-man, who has been tagged by far less.

Fighting to the best of their abilities doesn't mean CIS is off. Spider-man wouldn't kill in a forum battle, Hulk is still retarded, Predators won't use weapons against unarmed humans, etc.

And he won't come back from getting torn in half either.

I didn't say the Queen will spit acid, I was talking about the drones and how they can escape getting webbed up.

The Queen is much bigger and stronger than regular Aliens, she could just as easily rip him apart.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I provided you with a feat of Aliens dodging lasers, that's enough to tag Spider-man, who has been tagged by far less.

Fighting to the best of their abilities doesn't mean CIS is off. Spider-man wouldn't kill in a forum battle, Hulk is still retarded, Predators won't use weapons against unarmed humans, etc.

And he won't come back from getting torn in half either.

I didn't say the Queen will spit acid, I was talking about the drones and how they can escape getting webbed up.

The Queen is much bigger and stronger than regular Aliens, she could just as easily rip him apart.

Slow lasers.

And the best of his ability is to use his precog and dodge everything

Debatable

Still wouldn't work. If he webs them and they can't open their mouth or move their head how exactly will they get out?

Nope

Originally posted by juggerman
Slow lasers.

And the best of his ability is to use his precog and dodge everything

Debatable

Still wouldn't work. If he webs them and they can't open their mouth or move their head how exactly will they get out?

Nope

By that logic Spider-man dodged slow lightning.

He can't dodge everything even at his best. And my point was that Spider-sense isn't 100% full-proof.

He never survived anything that damaging.

In what world does Spider-man web someone up so hard they can't even open their mouths?

If she's strong enough to tussle with a power loader she's strong enough to rip him up. It's not like he was that durable.

Originally posted by Psychotron
By that logic Spider-man dodged slow lightning.

He can't dodge everything even at his best. And my point was that Spider-sense isn't 100% full-proof.

He never survived anything that damaging.

In what world does Spider-man web someone up so hard they can't even open their mouths?

If she's strong enough to tussle with a power loader she's strong enough to rip him up. It's not like he was that durable.

But fast bullets. And that one Xeno is not the average, it's very very high end. They are much slower and we don't just use the highest/lowest feats there are. on average Xenos get ripped apart by object moving much slower than "lasers" while on average Spiderman dodges bullets

Maybe not against things traveling as fast as bullets. But Xenos are much slower.

Pretty close with no issue at all

He actually does it often enough. But answer me this, if their mouth is facing away from their bodies, how can they spit acid on the webbing?

He's too fast. He could pull her head off before she knew what was happening

Originally posted by juggerman
But fast bullets. And that one Xeno is not the average, it's very very high end. They are much slower and we don't just use the highest/lowest feats there are. on average Xenos get ripped apart by object moving much slower than "lasers" while on average Spiderman dodges bullets

Maybe not against things traveling as fast as bullets. But Xenos are much slower.

Pretty close with no issue at all

He actually does it often enough. But answer me this, if their mouth is facing away from their bodies, how can they spit acid on the webbing?

He's too fast. He could pull her head off before she knew what was happening

How fast? If we start questioning laser and lightning speed we might as well question bullet speed.

Nope, lasers > bullets.

Getting shot by cops isn't the same.

By looking down?

Yeah, right. He didn't even blitz any humans, but he's going to blitz an Alien?

Originally posted by Psychotron
How fast? If we start questioning laser and lightning speed we might as well question bullet speed.

Nope, lasers > bullets.

Getting shot by cops isn't the same.

By looking down?

Yeah, right. He didn't even blitz any humans, but he's going to blitz an Alien?

Bullet fast

Bullets>>>> those specific lasers

It is

And if their head is immobilized?

A very slow alien at that

Originally posted by juggerman
Bullet fast

Bullets>>>> those specific lasers

It is

And if their head is immobilized?

A very slow alien at that

Lasers fast too.

Or maybe not.

Getting shot isn't as nearly as bad as getting torn in half.

Webbing is super-elastic.

Blitzing just isn't Lizard's style.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lasers fast too.

Or maybe not.

Getting shot isn't as nearly as bad as getting torn in half.

Webbing is super-elastic.

Blitzing just isn't Lizard's style.

Usually they are. Not those tho

Clearly they are

Didn't say it was.

Not really

It would only seem like bliting cuz the queen is uber slow

Originally posted by Werewolf582
The alien queen survived a huge ass explosion caused from a predators bomb. Anda same said queen that was injured from past invents was able still able to resist getting pulled off a cliff from whatever the hell pulled her down.

Originally posted by juggerman
But fast bullets. And that one Xeno is not the average, it's very very high end. They are much slower and we don't just use the highest/lowest feats there are. on average Xenos get ripped apart by object moving much slower than "lasers" while on average Spiderman dodges bullets

Maybe not against things traveling as fast as bullets. But Xenos are much slower.

Pretty close with no issue at all

He actually does it often enough. But answer me this, if their mouth is facing away from their bodies, how can they spit acid on the webbing?

He's too fast. He could pull her head off before she knew what was happening

Originally posted by FrothByte
Lizard can tear the queen apart more easily than she can tear lizard apart.

Also, speed itself doesn't make the characters strong enough to behead larger opponents in a blink of an eye with merely barehands.

Originally posted by Tyrannoraptor
But how would Lizard be able to pull her head off within seconds despite her size?

But nothing in the movie has proven that Lizard could easily behead or rip apart opponents that were twice larger/bigger than him in a blink of an eye with merely his barehands if not then why is that so or/& how is it proven?!

The Lizard stomps. He shreds the Queen with no effort, and within seconds.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
The Lizard stomped the living **** out of Garfield Spidey (the fastest onscreen Spidey we've had by far) THREE TIMES in one movie. He was also tossing cars around like cardboard boxes and effortlessly overpowering Spidey who's no slouch on strength himself. All that on top of the best (or at least up there) healing factor I've ever seen on screen?

The Lizard stomps. He shreds the Queen with no effort, and within seconds.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
The Lizard stomped the living **** out of Garfield Spidey (the fastest onscreen Spidey we've had by far) THREE TIMES in one movie. He was also tossing cars around like cardboard boxes and effortlessly overpowering Spidey who's no slouch on strength himself. All that on top of the best (or at least up there) healing factor I've ever seen on screen?

The Lizard stomps. He shreds the Queen with no effort, and within seconds.