Can Batman defeat Superman without Kryptonite?

Started by Delta19388 pages

Originally posted by Based
Fixed.

It's not even like DC hides the mandate that they must cater to the ejaculations of Batfans. And it's not even stuck on his own book either.

Batman actually has a terrible record against Superman, even taking the different continuities into account.

Wonder Woman has a winning record against Bats too, I believe. He's not nearly as unbeatable as some Bat fanboys make him out to be.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Batman actually has a terrible record against Superman, even taking the different continuities into account.

Everyone thinks of Dark Knight Returns and Tower of Babel. (And TOB didn't even really stop him, just left him in a lot of pain.)

Outside of that, he actually did kill him (With the K ring) in an Armageddon 2001 tie in, for anyone that remembers that piece of crap event.

Originally posted by cdtm
Everyone thinks of Dark Knight Returns and Tower of Babel. (And TOB didn't even really stop him, just left him in a lot of pain.)

Outside of that, he actually did kill him (With the K ring) in an Armageddon 2001 tie in, for anyone that remembers that piece of crap event.

I remember it well but that was just one possible future of that series.

It's akin to being an Elseworlds story and those don't count.

Pretty much had him dead to rights in Red Son as well.

Again, that's non-canon and always was.

DCnU he has a draw, at least.

But a prepped Batman against a non-prepped Superman who is fighting in character?

Batman would win.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
DCnU he has a draw, at least.

But a prepped Batman against a non-prepped Superman who is fighting in character?

Batman would win.


No. He wouldn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. He wouldn't.

Fight me sneer

Originally posted by riv6672
Whats a nice word for stupid? Because i DONT want to say your response is stupid, but...😐
Originally posted by riv6672
Whats a nice word for stupid? Because i DONT want to say your response is stupid, but...😐
i think batman will win here

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fight me sneer

Why? Because I don't believe in your extreme "do whatever it takes to win" batman which he wouldn't do against his best friend?

For once abhi is right. Superman curbs him

Actually, abhi has been right about many things.

Don't be so rigid guys.

We all know Superman would take 1/10 now, thanks to the super flare.

Originally posted by Star428
Actually, abhi has been right about many things.

You're right, there have been a few times here and there.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Batman actually has a terrible record against Superman, even taking the different continuities into account.

What are they? Only win I know of that they really fight is the New 52 opening where for once they show Batman having no chance.

He beat the living shit out of Supes when that Mongul Jr. guy told them to fight or whatever. He had k-nite.

Bats also 'killed' Clarkie in that virtual reality thing. Nu-readers will give you the details.

Originally posted by Based
What are they? Only win I know of that they really fight is the New 52 opening where for once they show Batman having no chance.

Pre-FLASHPOINT--

Attacked Batman in SACRIFICE when Maxwell Lord made him think Bruce was Ruin(well other comics actually showed he thought Darkseid and I think someone else too, when we saw it from Superman's perspective). Nearly killed Batman. Wonder Woman had to save him. Twice. Not just from finishing him, but her tech healed his injuries enough to keep Bruce from dying.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/SACRIFICE

In SUPERMAN/BATMAN, I think the storyline name was TORMENT, some plot device tech destroyed his mind and Desaad was controlling him. Again, almost killed Bats. Again, someone had to save him both from being finished, and healing his injuries so he didn't die.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/S_B-39

Batman has a chunk of Kryptonite. Look how well it turned out for him.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/Prepped_Bats

Batman is empowered by the demon Blaze. He wasn't really possessed, but that was the best term I could think of. Anyways, yeah, he's got super strength and all that. Loses two of their three fights.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/Blaze-Possessed/Round-1

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/Blaze-Possessed/Round-3

Significantly amped by a Blackrock. Still loses when Superman gets serious.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/Blackrock-Amp

Technically this isn't a Batman loss, since it's Major Force in control, but what the hey? Superman faces Batman possessed by the Major Force incarnation of Kryptonite Man. Superman doesn't know the limits of Batman with this, so instead of try to KO him, he merely contains him.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/Kryptonite-Man_Enhanced

Plot-Device mystical item transferred Superman's powers to Batman. Batman ended-up getting irrational, so there's context in his mindset. But I get a chuckle out of this, because when Batman has powers while Superman is powerless, Superman is the one who comes-up with and executes a strategy to win. In short, the one time I know of that the tables are turned, Superman out-Batmans Batman.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Batman/S-M56

That panel with Batman crying over his fake parents vanishing is priceless. And cruel.

Someone should make a sig out of that. Maybe star428 👆

Nah, I think StiltmanFTW should do it. LOL.

Besides, everytime I try to do something like that I always experience problems with it. Same thing when I try to post a link to something on this website.

There was also the time that Superman was being mind controlled by Poison Ivy and Bats couldn't even slow him down with kryptonite. Bruce was lucky he escaped with his life that time too. He had to gamble with Lois' life to get Superman to stop trying to kill him. That was also the same fight where Batman admits that if Clark really wanted to that he could kill him in the blink of an eye.