Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So...Newb Jean is able to lift something with more mass than a mountain, without straining herself too much, and give him a chance to break free.....But classic Mags cannot?
I don't think you seen the post I replied too. Lifting him up, sure, holding him in place indefinitely, ain't happening. The Jean showings were temporary. Given time, she probably would've fainted due to the power Juggernaut was/is exerting.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So...Newb Jean is able to lift something with more mass than a mountain, without straining herself too much, and give him a chance to break free.....But classic Mags cannot?
There seem to be TWO "Classic" Juggernauts at work at Marvel.
One ignores all semblance of physics, the other has to obey mundane forces like gravity.
Interestingly, that first one seems unable to counteract forces that Magneto proved able to contain, and magical ones at that.
Recall now that, while Magneto proved able to halt the force of Mjolnir, Juggernaut, Classic and with force field and all, could only go along for the ride:
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Source: Thor #429, Volume 1
Writer: Tom DeFalco
Penciller: Ron Frenz
Date: February 1991
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Juggernaut armor is just not Mystical Armor.. It's the Will of Cyttorack. Magneto can suppress the Juggernauts momentum by generating force barriers or using a power enough Energy beam could even toss the Juggernaut. But he can not control Juggernaut's armor like any other metal.
Really theres no barrier that magneto can make can stop Juggy..
Majolnir is a different type of magic because the Majolnir is a craftsmanship with enchanted powers. It's not like Juggernaut's armor which is directly linked to Cyttorack's will.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think you seen the post I replied too. Lifting him up, sure, holding him in place indefinitely, ain't happening. The Jean showings were temporary. Given time, she probably would've fainted due to the power Juggernaut was/is exerting.
NOW you finally get what I'm saying.
WHO said he was holding him in place indefinitely???
Going back to my post, do you think Mags would keep him suspended, giving him time to break free, without throwing him away for a BFR? In a forum fight?
How idiotic do you think he is?
Originally posted by Supermex
Juggernaut armor is just not Mystical Armor.. It's the Will of Cyttorack. Magneto can suppress the Juggernauts momentum by generating force barriers or using a power enough Energy beam could even toss the Juggernaut. But he can not control Juggernaut's armor like any other metal.Majolnir is a different type of magic because the Majolnir is a craftsmanship with enchanted powers. It's not like Juggernaut's armor which is directly linked to Cyttorack's will.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Erik can simply trap him into a force field and toss him in the space or simply manipulate the ground beneath him to shoot in space BFRing him. He has done both BTW.
Not talking about controlling the metal...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
NOW you finally get what I'm saying.WHO said he was holding him in place indefinitely???
Going back to my post, do you think Mags would keep him suspended, giving him time to break free, without throwing him away for a BFR? In a forum fight?
How idiotic do you think he is?
I don't think Magneto would try to bfr him period. He has done it but on rare occasions.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is classic Mags an idiot, then?He KNOWS who the unstoppable Juggernaut is. Knows his powers. Seen him in action.
And....what, you think the What If? comic is how the fight goes down?
I know Magneto is cocky...wants to showcase that he is powerful than whoever he is fighting. Would try to test his power against Juggernaut and would eventually exert himself which would then result in him getting beat to sleep. BFR is a cheap, lame, and a sign of fear, tactic to bring up in a battle and it is rarely if ever used in a comic.
Originally posted by carver9
I know Magneto is cocky...wants to showcase that he is powerful than whoever he is fighting. Would try to test his power against Juggernaut and would eventually exert himself which would then result in him getting beat to sleep. BFR is a cheap, lame, and a sign of fear, tactic to bring up in a battle and it is rarely if ever used in a comic.
You know he is cocky - but do you not think he is clever? This IS the guy who is not above messing with the Earth's magnetic field just to give himself an edge against telepaths - he doesn't care much for dick measuring. If he can manipulate his surroundings to win, he will.
As for BFR being a cheap/lame/sign of fear.....
But by the by. He is not in this thread. But I like how your arguments shift when it suits you.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You know he is cocky - but do you not think he is clever? This IS the guy who is not above messing with the Earth's magnetic field just to give himself an edge against telepaths - he doesn't care much for dick measuring. If he can manipulate his surroundings to win, he will.As for BFR being a cheap/lame/sign of fear.....
But by the by. He is not in this thread. But I like how your arguments shift when it suits you.
Do you know why Hulk did that instead of ya know, stabbing her with an injection to minimize her Hulk powers?
Originally posted by carver9
Do you know why Hulk did that instead of ya know, stabbing her with an injection to minimize her Hulk powers?
He saw her as a threat. Or at least, the Doc Green AI did.
No response to my point about Mags being willing to phuck with the surroundings to give himself a chance?
Not to mention, he HAS done it before (BFR).
