Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So....Sound has magnetic properties?
Fire is magnetic?
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah see that is the thing about Magneto, the movies get it wrong and say he controls metal. In comics, he can manipulate the entire electromagnetic spectrum, which is how he does all kinds of crazy shit that has nothing to do with metal objects.He's also manipulated lightning(Storm's) and I think even outright created it as well.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True dat.
This.
Mags is a monster i tell ya.
Originally posted by Stoic
There would be nothing that Eric could possibly do to stop him.
There was "nothing" Spider-Man could possibly do to stop Juggernaut, either.
Didn't help Cain much, though.
If Juggernaut can't technically be stopped, he can be slowed to a point where there's scarcely appreciable difference.
Originally posted by Stoic
Cain wins. There would be nothing that Eric could possibly do to stop him. At least this is what my first thoughts were on the subject.
If by "stop" you mean render him unable to move or rendering him unconscious, then you are very correct he can't do a thing. On the other hand, it's going to be hard for Juggernaut to punch Magneto all the way from outer space.
Originally posted by SurturMetal? An object doesn't need to be made of metal to have magnetic properties. Light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum and thus have magnetic properties. Cyclops beams are both concussive and have properties of light as well.
This logic doesn't make any sense, I said it shows he can effect things that don't have metal in them. You then point out a single feat that contradicts that(even though the optic beam feat would support it, so it seems they cancel each other out) and then use that to assume that no...Cyclops eye beams have metal in them? Either you are saying they have metal in them or you are agreeing with what I just said, the whole "can affect things besides metal".Magnets can have affects on more then just metal objects. But that is besides the point, he can still target the iron inside Juggernaut. Yes, I am aware someone posted a feat of Jean failing to lift him or whatever. But we need a feat of someone on the power level of Magneto trying to internally mess with Juggernaut and failing. Especially since he isn't going to be causing any actual damage to Juggernaut, I'm not 100% sure you can just hand wave it with "Cyttorak's enchantment".
Originally posted by h1a8
Metal? An object doesn't need to be made of metal to have magnetic properties. Light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum and thus have magnetic properties. Cyclops beams are both concussive and have properties of light as well.
So then I'm confused, because you were quoting me saying the guy can move non metal objects as if that was wrong. You just, right there, essentially said the exact same thing.
Electric fields (E) and magnetic fields (B) are coupled by the Maxwell Equations of Electromagnetism. It is possible to induce nondivergent electric fields by creating time-dependent magnetic fields, according to the Maxwell-Faraday law of induction:
In particular, if one generates a propagating sinusoidal wave from magnetic field, an accompanying electric wave will get induced as well, and we will get electromagnetic radiation:
(Above, it is shown how the magnetic field component can be generated from the electric field component of the EM wave, but it works the other way around as well.)
Thus, Magneto should have control over electric fields and electromagnetic radiation as well, since electricity and magnetism are just different sides of the same coin. One can induce the other.