Originally posted by Based
I'm sure deep, deep down you know that by posting a quote of Revan being described as a genius, or brilliant or whatever isn't sufficient enough proof. Which was essentially your entire post.
And this is the problem, you are not paying attention to available information.
Revan have superior command of the Force then Sion, Traya, Nihilus and Surik. In-fact, all Jedi of his era and then some.
Revan and Emperor Vitiate understand the Force in ways unlike most individuals of the mythos.
These are meaningful revelations, dear.
Originally posted by Based
The very next sentence which you elected to not quote stated that it's circumstantial. "Granted, it depends on the circumstances, but everything else being equal, Revan’s just... Revan."All he's saying that if we take out these external factors and make everything equal then Revan would beat Kreia and that's well understood. If all we did was make Revan into a Force Wound to make him equal to the Exile then yes Revan would kick the dick out of her.
That remark is for Revan's confrontation with the duo of Traya and Surik. Of-course, taking on the latter two may require some strategy or good decision-making element since both are powerful Force-users with impressive Force-abilities. In-fact, Traya smoked 3 Jedi Masters as if they were nothing. Surik also have command of dangerous talents such as Force Sever.
Their is no requirement of Revan being a Force Wound to take on Traya however, he will easily dismiss her (solo) because he have relatively superior command of the Force and raw power (this means a lot in terms of possibilities for Revan essentially).
Against the duo of Traya and Surik, Revan may need to strategize to some extent or make good decisions which sounds realistic. However, Revan is good enough to defeat this duo in a balanced scenario, per Mr. Chris.
The circumstances argument is that a confrontation is likely to involve elements that may influence the effectiveness of its participants. Their is hardly a confrontation in the lore, in which circumstances are not involved at a certain level; these events are not black and white in most cases. This is what Mr. Chris is implying, and this is exactly what most authors will assert in a conversation. For example, Mr. Drew often asserts that anybody can win or loose in a fight between powerful Force-users, depending upon circumstances.
However, keeping in mind the tactical brilliance and power of Revan, Mr. Chris felt confident to assert that Revan can defeat even the duo of Surik and Meetra, should this hypothetical confrontation occur. Revan is just this damn good.
Force Wound condition had its advantages but it wasn't a reliable facet of raw power for an individual in the long-run. Surik benefitted from this condition in some ways like she was immune to effects of Force Drain powers for as long as the condition lasted and was also able to manipulate her surroundings like a proper Force-user. Otherwise, she was no Revan, and lacked the power and tactical brilliance to tackle the Triumvirate opposition, like Revan could with his own abilities.
I have always felt Surik was not supposed to be the juggernaut of destruction that Revan was. Surik's accomplishment is a representative of a hero who tackled overwhelming odds under the special circumstances.
Meetra had been close enough to feel the shock wave; to survive it she had cut herself off from the Force, shielding her psyche against the horrors of what she had unleashed. Many years had passed before she regained her connection to the Force, but in the end, surviving the trauma of Malachor V had given her the strength to defeat Darth Traya and her followers.
Taken from (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan)