General Zod (MOS) vs Sebastian Shaw (First Class)

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't need to try again, my point was never refuted.

You quoted rob like he was correct. He wasn't. Clearly you're the "certain poster" that facts don't matter to

Originally posted by juggerman
YouTube video

Skip ahead to 3:40. Right after Zod tosses Kal thru the buildings, Kal looks like he doesn't know where he is

All that work to mildly daze someone for a few moments, tells me Zod isn't sensible when fighting

^How was I "incorrect", Kal was not harmed

Only problem with that is, Rob's statement was correct.

Kal was clearly affected by Zod. Not the same thing if he punched Shaw.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only problem with that is, Rob's statement was correct.

Nope. He was harmed. Not a whole lot I'll give you but he was. Unless of course you think Kal just gets dazed outta nowhere for no reason

Originally posted by Robtard
All that work to mildly daze someone for a few moments, tells me Zod isn't sensible when fighting

^How was I "incorrect", Kal was not harmed

He doesn't seem to realize that pointing out something that happens almost 4 minutes into the fight actually proves our stance and not his, IE that Zod will continue to try and punch/attack even when his first one doesn't work.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
You got anything to back up the idea that Zod is faster than the speed of thought? Any number figure for the speed of thought to compare to Zods speed feats?

http://www.science.smith.edu/departments/neurosci/courses/bio330/pdf/94CurrBiolTovee.pdf

Even at the shortest time cited, six milliseconds, Zod is fast enough to reach outer orbit in a couple of seconds.

He's clocking in at about mach 10,000 (I'm too lazy to get an exact figure). Even at mach 100 Zod would be fast enough to clear over two hundred meters in six milliseconds.

The speed of thought isn't so fast.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He doesn't seem to realize that pointing out something that happens almost 4 minutes into the fight actually proves our stance and not his, IE that Zod will continue to try and punch/attack even when his first one doesn't work.

Except it doesn't.

Ignoring the previous 4.5mins of nigh-futile fighting that already happened, Zod upper-cut Kal, swung him around and threw him with enough force to send Kal flying through at least 4 buildings, all to mildly daze Kal and then continued punching him with little to no affect at all.

Really doesn't paint Zod as this "uber thinking fighter", imo

Yes, it does.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ignoring the previous fighting that already happened, Zod upper-cut Kal, swung him around and threw him with enough force to send Kal flying through at least 4 buildings, all to mildly daze Kal and then ontinued punching him with little to no affect at all.

Really doesn't paint Zod as this "uber thinking fighter", imo

His whole argument is that he believes Zod is smart enough to change tactics after one punch.....even though Zod has zero feats of doing so.

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod upper-cut Kal, swung him around and threw him with enough force to send Kal flying through at least 4 buildings, all to mildly daze Kal and then ontinued punching him with little to no affect at all.

Really doesn't paint Zod as this "uber thinking fighter", imo

Never said he was an uber thinking fighter. Only that he would reasonably expect his punches to kill and/or send people flying. Kal was the most powerful being in the world besides Zod and Kal never once no sold a hit. I just don't see why you guys think it's unreasonable for Zod to be surprized that Shaw would eat his hits and that Shaw would shake crazily

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, it does.

Nope

Originally posted by Silent Master
His whole argument is that he believes Zod is smart enough to change tactics after one punch.....even though Zod has zero feats of doing so.

Nope again

Show feats of Zod using the level of tactical thinking that you're claiming he has.

I didn't realise being confused by an ability was considered "tactical" now.

IOW, you have zero feats that prove it'll only take one punch for Zod to realize that forms of attack that include kinetic energy are worthless.

Originally posted by juggerman
Never said he was an uber thinking fighter. Only that he would reasonably expect his punches to kill and/or send people flying. Kal was the most powerful being in the world besides Zod and Kal never once no sold a hit. I just don't see why you guys think it's unreasonable for Zod to be surprized that Shaw would eat his hits and that Shaw would shake crazily

Going by what Zod showed, Shaw 'no-selling punches' would only enrage Zod and make him want to punch harder and faster, at least for a bit, in some mad attempt to prove that his penis isn't teeny tiny, as that's how Shaw "no-selling" would make Zod feel, especially considering it's still a human(who he hates) taking his hits and smiling

This "one punch and stops" is extremely silly, if that was you

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you have zero feats that prove it'll only take one punch for Zod to realize that forms of attack that include kinetic energy are worthless.

Never was my claim

Originally posted by juggerman
Shaw loses in both. After one punch from Zod he would notice Shaw wasn't exploded instatntly or at least thrown a great distance. I highly doubt he would just continue punching all willy nilly.

Originally posted by Robtard
Going by what Zod showed, Shaw 'no-selling punches' would only enrage Zod and make him want to punch harder and faster, at least for a bit, in some mad attempt to prove that his penis isn't teeny tiny, as that's how Shaw "no-selling" would make Zod feel, especially considering it's still a human(who he hates) taking his hits and smiling

This "one punch and stops" is extremely silly

There was no "raging" outside of his home planet/people being taken away from him and him basically having no purpose. Unless he's going thru that here as well there is no reason to think he would be "raging"

You guys are taking my comment out of context. I'm not saying he wiil punch him once and then realise he needs to change it up. I said he will hit Shaw thinking only one punch is needed to kill him.