General Zod (MOS) vs Sebastian Shaw (First Class)

Originally posted by juggerman
I already said he probably wouldn't guess he absorbed energy but he would realise hitting him is not the answer. I doubt he would just keep hitting him.

Would basic knowledge let Zod know Shaw's power? I'm leaning toward no but idk for sure

He would first think "force field" than anything. Which means he would most likely try and hit it more to overpower it. Eventually, he'd figure it out but then it would be too late.

Also, nuclear Shaw already HAS the power to own Zod. He doesn't even need to get hit.

No one even knew what he could do. No one even knew who he was. Shaw in First Class was pretty secretive about who he was and what he did up until he was certain he could own you. So I'm sure basic knowledge would be nonexistent.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shaw was shown running as fast as Kevin Bacon can run, actually (yacht scene, iirc). Which would be fast enough to step off the piece of ground Zod is trying to rip out and carry in this ridiculous scenario of Zod punching Shaw once and then deducing that the way to defeat Shaw is by lifting the ground from under him. LoL!

Hmm did he beat some yacht running record or something to be so impressed?

Besides. why would Zod hit him once and then stop to study his reaction, wouldn't it be more in character for Zod to press his attack?

Zod would actually more than likely rage out when he realized his hits weren't doing anything...so he'd just hit him more. Zod was like a spoiled kid in MoS and thought he could solve all his problems by hitting them.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Hmm did he beat some yacht running record or something to be so impressed?

You claimed that Shaw only moved "very slow" and would thereby be too slow to step off whatever piece of ground Zod is trying to lift (LoL). You were clearly mistaken. Shaw can run at Kevin Bacon running speeds (aka KBRS)

Originally posted by Robtard
You claimed that Shaw only moved "very slow" and would thereby be too slow to step off whatever piece of ground Zod is trying to lift (LoL). You were clearly mistaken. Shaw can run at Kevin Bacon running speeds (aka KBRS)

Ah see so, he has to move very slow when aggressing with his powers, but while running like a scared piece of bacon, he shows no powers as seen on the yacht while running like a bat outa hell.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ah see so, he has to move very slow when aggressing with his powers, but while running like a scared piece of bacon, he shows no powers as seen on the yacht while running like a bat outa hell.

So your claim now is that Shaw can only use his powers when moving slowly? LoL!

I would like to see a valid source for this, because escaping a sinking ship is just being intelligent

Originally posted by Silent Master
Still wouldn't be enough for Zod to figure it out after one punch, especially since he has zero knowledge of that type of power even existing.

Again I'm saying he would figure it out after one punch or even at all completely.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
He would first think "force field" than anything. Which means he would most likely try and hit it more to overpower it. Eventually, he'd figure it out but then it would be too late.

Also, nuclear Shaw already HAS the power to own Zod. He doesn't even need to get hit.

No one even knew what he could do. No one even knew who he was. Shaw in First Class was pretty secretive about who he was and what he did up until he was certain he could own you. So I'm sure basic knowledge would be nonexistent.

A force field wouldn't make Shaw move the way he does when hit. But even if he did think that, he probabaly wouldn't just keep hitting him.

I disagree.

True but it's basic knowledge of your opponent. He should have a basic understanding of Shaw as Shaw should have a basic understanding of Zod. But I guess if Zod did, it would be too easy a fight for him

Originally posted by Silent Master
Besides. why would Zod hit him once and then stop to study his reaction, wouldn't it be more in character for Zod to press his attack?

If he doesn't know Shaw has powers, he would expect his hit to instantly kill him and send his body flying. He would not be expecting to lay a combo on him. So after the one hit yes, he would have intended to stop since the fight should be over. Shaw not moving AND his body reacting the way it does to impact would cause Zod to be confused and wonder WTF just happened. That's how the fight would most likely begin in either scenario

You're doing an awful lot of scripting in order to make Zod win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're doing an awful lot of scripting in order to make Zod win.

The only thing I "scripted" was the beginning and you know it would play out that way more often than not. After that it becomes more in question

Zod : By Jove, my first attack on that hooligan did not have the effect that I assumed it would, I must therefore cease my attacks on him so that I can analyze his reaction and deduce the true nature of his abilities.....Great Scott, he must be immune to all forms of kinetic energy as that can be the only explanation, I must therefore reconfigure my strategy and adjust my tactics to compensate for this new information, Tally Ho.

Sounds about right

Or

Zod: Derp, I hit man, man no go down. Will hit man again. Man make funny shakey face. Must mean Zod hurt man. Zod keep hurting man. Man no seem harmed. Must mean Zod winning. Yay Zod.

Zod did continue to punch Kal, despite not harming him. So Zod punching Shaw more than the "once" that is being pushed isn't some crazy thought

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod did continue to punch Kal, despite not harming him.

Zod was also enraged at his entire world being taken away from him for the second time. And it can be argued Zod did harm Kal since there was a point in the fight Kal seemed out of it.

😂

YouTube video

Skip ahead to 3:40. Right after Zod tosses Kal thru the buildings, Kal looks like he doesn't know where he is

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod did continue to punch Kal, despite not harming him. So Zod punching Shaw more than the "once" that is being pushed isn't some crazy thought

Facts don't matter to certain posters.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Facts don't matter to certain posters.

Already refuted. Try again

I don't need to try again, my point was never refuted.