Originally posted by Tzeentch
It's also worth noting that the Rebels achieved that victory using ships that were superior or at least on-par with the Imperial's. Would Luke and the Gang have been able to destroy the Death Star if their ships had been slower, less powerful and/or less durable than the TIE's?
They achieved victory because Han came in at the last minute to save Luke. Vader and his personal squadron destroyed Gold and Red Squadron.
Plus another thing, no one but Luke was gonna be able to destroy the Death Star. So really...the Rebels were screwed, if Luke was killed.
Also nah, they would have gotten creamed like they did in the movie too...only worse.
Star Destroyer's in the EU are powerful enough to supply enough energy to a Superlaser and blow up Planets. If we assume that it can blow up Earth Sized planets and it takes 24 hours to fully charge its superlaser, it would be generating roughly 664 Petatons of TNT per second. 1 Petaton is equal to 1 billion Megatons of TNT. Biggest Nuke ever made was only 50 Megatons of TNT. A Star Destroyer has better energy generation than our Sun, which only expends 91 Petatons of TNT Per second. The SD not only had its superlaser but it still supplied energy to everything else it had just fine. The Star Forge needed energy from a Sun to work, the GE is that above all the old civilizations.
Are you really trying to tell me that Vitiate's scariness counteracts Sidious' galactic wide battle meditation? Even if the entire Sith order doesn't defect, after they see crazy shit from Sidious there will be dissent.
But that doesn't matter anyway, the Galactic Empire is infinitely larger. The fact their navy is huge, they've got armies equipped to the teeth and that they have pretty total dominance in technology would give the GE a pretty sound victory over vitiates Sith.
Originally posted by Selenial
Are you really trying to tell me that Vitiate's scariness counteracts Sidious' galactic wide battle meditation? Even if the entire Sith order doesn't defect, after they see crazy shit from Sidious there will be dissent.But that doesn't matter anyway, the Galactic Empire is infinitely larger. The fact their navy is huge, they've got armies equipped to the teeth and that they have pretty total dominance in technology would give the GE a pretty sound victory over vitiates Sith.
Sidious doesn't have galaxy wide battle meditation though. ❌
And Sidious and Vitiate can't do anything anyway.
The Death Star is even MORE powerful. The explosion of Aldeeran was calculated being equal to 1E+38 Joules, which if say our Sun was supplying energy to the Superlaser would take 8,000 years to give it the same amount of energy the DS provides it in 24 hours. That means per second the DS is producing 276,627,008 Petatons of TNT. To blow up the Earth in Petatons you would need 57,839,388 Petatons. That basically means the DS can shoot a Planet busting Superlaser in one shot every second.
But the GE does stomp Vitiate's Empire. KOTOR era considered drawing energy from a Star as a massive undertaking achievement, and TOR era still find Rakata tech to be grand. The GE's Death Star power generation is equal to Hundreds of Giant Stars. One Star Destroyer's power generation is roughly 7 times greater than our Sun. If a SD was hooked up to the Star Forge it would supply it with all the power it needs.
I agree that Vitiate's Empire has the Force advantage but their top-tier Force Users can only be around the Galaxy one place at one time. I mean sure if someone like Marr was leading a battle I have no doubts they'd have a higher chance of winning than say Motti. But when it comes to the main bulk of each other's empires, the GE have a ton more power and numbers to throw at Vitate's.
Originally posted by The Merchant
I agree that Vitiate's Empire has the Force advantage but their top-tier Force Users can only be around the Galaxy one place at one time. I mean sure if someone like Marr was leading a battle I have no doubts they'd have a higher chance of winning than say Motti. But when it comes to the main bulk of each other's empires, the GE have a ton more power and numbers to throw at Vitate's.
They also have better commanders, IE: Piett, Thrawn, Veers, etc.
Not to mention, the GE have the knowledge on their side considering they have academies that go over military history and so forth. So they would know about the Sith Empire and the like, whereas that isn't true for the SE.
Originally posted by Sinious
How ironic of you to break someone of their wankery.
When I go into a thread entertaining the notion that VitiateSidious can curbstomp universal threats, you'll have a leg to stand on. But I'm not stupid and so for the purposes of this metaphor you might as well be a quadriplegic.
Originally posted by Sinious
Its not your PT wanking that bothers me though, its your TOR lowballing.
It's not PT wanking to claim that the faction with vastly greater numbers, technology, and resources curbstomps the lesser faction.
But perhaps your TOR wankery requires any defeat by a TOR faction to be some sort of close contest?
You're silly.