Oliver Queen vs Hawkeye

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Oliver Queen vs Hawkeye

Fight takes place in NY times square. They start off 100 m away from each other.

Round 1: Combatants get all their equipment.
Round 2: they get simple, identical bows and normal arrows
Round 3: h2h

I don't recall any shooting feats for Oliver that would match Hawkeye's best, so Hawk should win the weapon fights.

Jeremy Renner shoots his arrow into Oliver's face at ftl speeds and erases his entire being from existence 10/10.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't recall any shooting feats for Oliver that would match Hawkeye's best, so Hawk should win the weapon fights.

I seem to recall GA shooting an arrow that was in flight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't recall any shooting feats for Oliver that would match Hawkeye's best, so Hawk should win the weapon fights.

Maybe, but Hawkeye also doesn't have any feats to match Ollie's speed shooting. None that I recall anyway. Which makes them pretty even in my books.

Originally posted by ares834
I seem to recall GA shooting an arrow that was in flight.

I seem to recall Hawkeye shooting fast moving flying craft without looking and shooting arrows with USB attachments into a computer. let's also not forget that shot from the back of a jet that managed to take out one of the helicarriers engines.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I seem to recall Hawkeye shooting fast moving flying craft without looking and shooting arrows with USB attachments into a computer. let's also not forget that shot from the back of a jet that managed to take out one of the helicarriers engines.

Oliver doesn't have as impressive feats yes, but he's no slouch in accuracy either. Shooting an arrow in mid flight or shooting an arrow into the barrel of a gun is no mean feat.

I see the shots Hawkeye made as being harder, thus the reason I give him the nod in the weapon fights.

Clint could pull off Ollie's feats, but I don't see that working vice versa.

Originally posted by KingD19
Clint could pull off Ollie's feats, but I don't see that working vice versa.

Including speed shooting?

He's a highly trained SHIELD agent, yet they allow him to use a bow and arrow instead of a gun. I'm sure he can speed shoot, especially when he's not trying to make insanely complicated shots that he actually still gets off pretty fast despite them all being pretty much impossible to pull off.

Hawkeye wins bow and arrow fight but Ollie wins h2h

Originally posted by Silent Master
I see the shots Hawkeye made as being harder, thus the reason I give him the nod in the weapon fights.
I remember seeing Ollie catch arrows on a few occasions. He should have no trouble catching or dodging any arrows Clint shoots off.

Clint on the other hand, doesn't have the same reaction feats. Yes his shots are better, but thats almost a non-factor against Ollie.

Ollie takes the first two scenario's by putting an arrow in Hawkeye before he can do the same. He takes the third by beating Hawkeye senseless without too much trouble.

Ollie 10/10 pretty easily

Ollie catches and exploding arrow, cool.

Originally posted by Mindset
Ollie catches and exploding arrow, cool.

I remember Loki did that too. Didn't work out great for him. And if you consider that Hawkeye without looking hit a Chitauri zooming by on a speeder going however many mph, and did the same to Loki. Saying Ollie just dodges his arrow is kinda funny.

He can hit moving targets(headshot) going at the least, 40+ miles per hour in the opposite direction while not looking, yet Ollie can just dodge?

He's also not taking into account that different bows have different draw strength and thus the arrows will move at different speeds and given the range of Hawkeye's shots, he is obviously using a very heavy draw strength bow.

Originally posted by Mindset
Ollie catches and exploding arrow, cool.
You know, I knew someone would bring that up when I typed that. Ollie can just dodge it and use one of his own exploding arrows. Then Clint can catch it with his face.

Clint is massively outclassed here.

Hawkeye has managed to hit targets that move far faster than Ollie and yet Ollie will somehow not only dodge the arrow but the explosion as well.

Well, it's clear that there is no point in trying to have a real debate with you.

Hawkeye had some ridiculous bow feats in avengers.

That one he shot against the wind, calculating wind speed, curvature, etc and hitting the target was nice too.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hawkeye has managed to hit targets that move far faster than Ollie and yet Ollie will somehow not only dodge the arrow but the explosion as well.

Well, it's clear that there is no point in trying to have a real debate with you.

He didn't do that by pointing right at the objects. He anticipated where they were going and shot. That was skill, not the speed of the arrow.

And skill wont help land shots against a dude who can see, catch, and dodge his shots. Its like putting Deadshot in a battle with Spiderman. It doesn't matter how good of a shot he is. Spidey will dodge the bullet and beat him down. Except now, Spidey is using a gun and is an amazing shot himself. Sure, he's no Deadshot, but he's good enough to hit the target relatively easily and the target cant dodge his bullets like he can the targets.

BTW, Ollie uses a Oneida Kestrel compound bow. Hawkeye uses a Hoyt Buffalo recurve. Both are great, but the Kestrel is considered one of the best. Its price definitely reflects that. Compound bows are more powerful, faster, and easier to shoot than recurves. Hawkeye is outclassed in every area here except for skill, and that wont help him.