Originally posted by ares834
I seem to recall GA shooting an arrow that was in flight.
I seem to recall Hawkeye shooting fast moving flying craft without looking and shooting arrows with USB attachments into a computer. let's also not forget that shot from the back of a jet that managed to take out one of the helicarriers engines.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I seem to recall Hawkeye shooting fast moving flying craft without looking and shooting arrows with USB attachments into a computer. let's also not forget that shot from the back of a jet that managed to take out one of the helicarriers engines.
Oliver doesn't have as impressive feats yes, but he's no slouch in accuracy either. Shooting an arrow in mid flight or shooting an arrow into the barrel of a gun is no mean feat.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI remember seeing Ollie catch arrows on a few occasions. He should have no trouble catching or dodging any arrows Clint shoots off.
I see the shots Hawkeye made as being harder, thus the reason I give him the nod in the weapon fights.
Clint on the other hand, doesn't have the same reaction feats. Yes his shots are better, but thats almost a non-factor against Ollie.
Ollie takes the first two scenario's by putting an arrow in Hawkeye before he can do the same. He takes the third by beating Hawkeye senseless without too much trouble.
Ollie 10/10 pretty easily
Originally posted by Mindset
Ollie catches and exploding arrow, cool.
I remember Loki did that too. Didn't work out great for him. And if you consider that Hawkeye without looking hit a Chitauri zooming by on a speeder going however many mph, and did the same to Loki. Saying Ollie just dodges his arrow is kinda funny.
He can hit moving targets(headshot) going at the least, 40+ miles per hour in the opposite direction while not looking, yet Ollie can just dodge?
Originally posted by Silent MasterHe didn't do that by pointing right at the objects. He anticipated where they were going and shot. That was skill, not the speed of the arrow.
Hawkeye has managed to hit targets that move far faster than Ollie and yet Ollie will somehow not only dodge the arrow but the explosion as well.Well, it's clear that there is no point in trying to have a real debate with you.
And skill wont help land shots against a dude who can see, catch, and dodge his shots. Its like putting Deadshot in a battle with Spiderman. It doesn't matter how good of a shot he is. Spidey will dodge the bullet and beat him down. Except now, Spidey is using a gun and is an amazing shot himself. Sure, he's no Deadshot, but he's good enough to hit the target relatively easily and the target cant dodge his bullets like he can the targets.
BTW, Ollie uses a Oneida Kestrel compound bow. Hawkeye uses a Hoyt Buffalo recurve. Both are great, but the Kestrel is considered one of the best. Its price definitely reflects that. Compound bows are more powerful, faster, and easier to shoot than recurves. Hawkeye is outclassed in every area here except for skill, and that wont help him.