Female Jedi vs Female Sith

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Female Jedi vs Female Sith

Grandmaster Satele Shan
FOTJ Jaina Solo
Meetra Surik ( Prime )
TFU Shaak Ti

vs

LOTF Lumiya
Darth Traya ( Drain Disabled )
Darth Nyriss
Darth Zannah

Random mish-mash. Which team of ladies takes it?

Probably the Jedi with 1 o 2 casualties

Zannah sucks and would lose to anyone on team 1 for a majority, and Nyriss would get stomped by all four as we'll

Zannah doesn't suck. By any means. Her sorcery can be deadly in a fight. And I think you underestimate Nyriss. Her lightning was powerful enough to turn herself into ashes, and she was tooling Meetra and Scourge simultaneously until Revan arrived.

I think it's a good, close fight, but I'm leaning towards Team Sith.

Team Sith.

Lol at carthage saying Nyriss gets stomped by everyone. Considering she actually stomped Meetra already. Good to see him flexing his formidable mental handicap for us all again.

The Sith would win if Zannah wasn't a shit duelist and Nyriss had feats off nexus. The Jedi would mow over them with ease, Shira and Traya can't keep up their slack. If Jaina or Meetra were named Sarro Xaj and Set Harth, Zannah might have a shot

You underestimate Zannah and Nyriss heavily.

Zannah is marginally more skilled than Nyriss, and Nyriss has no showings of nexus to suggest she can beat any of the Jedi. Apart from Nephs braindamaged wanking of Zannah, neither of them have anything to circumvent Ti or Satele's power

Jedi win. Pretty lopsided battle as well.

Pffft.

Nexus or not, she tooled Scourge and Meetra simultaneously. Scourge also was amped by DK... Didn't help shit. Nyriss actually tooled one of the Jedi she will be fighting against in this VS. That = no showings to you? Again, forcewise, her lightning was powerful enough to turn herself into ashes. It's never actually been quantified how much does a nexus amp a dark sider's power, but you can be sure that outside of DK her lightning would be lethal, too.

Zannah had the ability to summon dark side tendrils that could desintegrate flesh on mere touch. She also could show people their greatest fears and drive them insane. She studied and learned Sith magic and sorcery from Freedon Nadd.

How can you say these two have nothing on the Jedi?

Female Jedi win this.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Nexus or not,

mmm
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Zannah had the ability to summon dark side tendrils that could desintegrate flesh on mere touch.

mmm

Can she do it anywhere, or only on Ambria?

I don't have DoE on me atm, but the wookieepedia site says this:

"Desperate to end the duel, Zannah drew upon the power within Ambria itself and summoned tendrils of pure dark side energy from the ground around them. She thrust the tendrils at Bane, who attempted to dodge the attack as he advanced on her."

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Second_Duel_on_Ambria

Sorry, for double post. But one more thing:

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
It's never actually been quantified how much does a nexus amp a dark sider's power,

VERSUS:
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
but you can be sure that outside of DK her lightning would be lethal, too.

😬

How can you be sure, when the amp is there, as you yourself admitted.

It's a blatant leap in logic.

It doesn't matter that Nyriss was on a nexus because even if she was it would be a far lesser nexus than Malachor and I find it laughable to entertain the idea that Meetra was more disadvantaged against Nyriss than she was against the Trayas Academy and Traya, considering no disadvantage is ever even hinted at. Yet Meetra managed to beat Traya and got stomped by Nyriss. So it's easy to quantify Nyriss as superior to Traya who is a complete bamf.

Also Nyriss' lightning turned people into husks on DK so its an easy extrapolation to say that it would comfortably kill people off there.

2 in a close fight, tbh.

The Sith win.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't matter that Nyriss was on a nexus because even if she was it would be a far lesser nexus than Malachor and I find it laughable to entertain the idea that Meetra was more disadvantaged against Nyriss than she was against the Trayas Academy and Traya, considering no disadvantage is ever even hinted at. Yet Meetra managed to beat Traya and got stomped by Nyriss. So it's easy to quantify Nyriss as superior to Traya who is a complete bamf.

Also Nyriss' lightning turned people into husks on DK so its an easy extrapolation to say that it would comfortably kill people off there.

👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't matter that Nyriss was on a nexus because even if she was it would be a far lesser nexus than Malachor and I find it laughable to entertain the idea that Meetra was more disadvantaged against Nyriss than she was against the Trayas Academy and Traya, considering no disadvantage is ever even hinted at. Yet Meetra managed to beat Traya and got stomped by Nyriss. So it's easy to quantify Nyriss as superior to Traya who is a complete bamf.
Prove it's a far lesser nexus?

The bottom line is that we cannot really tell if DS nexus gives you 5, 10, 20 or 30 percent amp. You cannot just handwave it and say "well it seems to me the amp was not significant". The point is that there was an amp.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also Nyriss' lightning turned people into husks on DK so its an easy extrapolation to say that it would comfortably kill people off there.

Only if you can prove how powerful or not powerful was an amp. But you cannot.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't matter that Nyriss was on a nexus because even if she was it would be a far lesser nexus than Malachor and I find it laughable to entertain the idea that Meetra was more disadvantaged against Nyriss than she was against the Trayas Academy and Traya, considering no disadvantage is ever even hinted at. Yet Meetra managed to beat Traya and got stomped by Nyriss. So it's easy to quantify Nyriss as superior to Traya who is a complete bamf.

Also Nyriss' lightning turned people into husks on DK so its an easy extrapolation to say that it would comfortably kill people off there.

Lol @ your blatant ignoring of cannon. Continue proving how much of a fanboy you are 👆. Unless you can prove Nyriss can generate that similar potency off of a nexus, no one should take you seriously. Satele and Ti also know Tutaminus making it useless.

Originally posted by Stigma
The bottom line is that we cannot really tell if DS nexus gives you 5, 10, 20 or 30 percent amp. You cannot just handwave it and say "well it seems to me the amp was not significant". The point is that there was an amp.

Only if you can prove how powerful or not powerful was an amp. But you cannot.

The point is Meetra's best feats took place on a stronger nexus. Anything she could do on Malachor, she could do on Dromund Kaas. Any amp Traya had, so did Nyriss to a lesser extent. And Nyriss still stomped her.

Don't be ridiculous. It takes a lot more power to burn flesh enough that the person resembles a withered husk than it would to merely kill them. We're talking multiple times more power. Suggesting that she couldn't kill off of one is clownish.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The point is Meetra's best feats took place on a stronger nexus. Anything she could do on Malachor, she could do on Dromund Kaas. Any amp Traya had, so did Nyriss to a lesser extent. And Nyriss still stomped her.

Don't be ridiculous. It takes a lot more power to burn flesh enough that the person resembles a withered husk than it would to merely kill them. We're talking multiple times more power. Suggesting that she couldn't kill off of one is clownish.

So you can't actually prove that Nyriss can generate the same power off nexus, and that she can even handle Surk without being amped 👆. You're the only one who is a clown.

Watching Neph debate Surik is like watching my 3 year old debate neuroscience.

I find it frankly disgusting that he can insult Carthage's intelligence, when Carthage is happy to concede on characters he's uneducated on (IE Surik, to me) and yet Neph can debate a character 100 times and not change a single word of his arguments.

This is honestly an embarrassing display.

The Jedi take this.