How is it irrelevant?
Originally posted by krisblazeWhen classic Beyonder`s power is added to the gauntlet,it`s a know contest then,they beat everyone easy!400 years the writer had a crack pipe that night.It is relevant because it makes something called no sense!
^Calm down.Only I may flip my shit over irrelevant stuff.
Originally posted by zopzopYeah, he wasn't too bad in Annihilation or the Galactus Seed. Except I still like to see him as the "ultimate cosmic," and I never really liked that Mjolnir could hurt him. I also think the less he shows up on the Marvel stage, the greater his Awe Factor.
You'd have a point, if this was the 90s. But Galactus has come a long way since then (see Annihilation, the Mad Celestial arc, Thanos Imperative, the Galactus Seed arc, the Scrier/Other war, etc...)
Ok I read the story about doom with the Beyonders power and the Infinity gauntlet.And these people who said he beat the whole Celestial race not just 5 of them are right!But it changes nothing as far as I am concerned,he beat billions of them in 400 years not 5.Actually it should have taken 5 minutes,but I have to go with the writer.still a very impressive feat.Pym even said why did they not kill us off along time ago(the Ivory Kings)he said it takes a long time to kill a near infinite amount of gods!
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderDoom was ONLY shown fighting/killing the SAME 5 Celestials the entire issue--and at the end, ONLY the remains of those SAME 5 Celestials were shown. There were NO implications that he fought/killed the entire race. NONE whatsoever... I don't even know where this erroneous theory is coming from.
It was the entire Celestial race...Sure, only 5 are shown on panel, but its implied he ended their race...
If I have to, I'll post the entire f*cking issue in this thread for everyone to see, if that's what it takes to stop the lies.
Originally posted by Galan007😆
Doom was ONLY shown fighting/killing the SAME [b]5 Celestials the entire issue--and at the end, ONLY the remains of those SAME 5 Celestials were shown. There were NO implications that he fought/killed the entire race. NONE whatsoever... I don't even know where this erroneous theory is coming from.If I have to, I'll post the entire f*cking issue in this thread for everyone to see, if that's what it takes to stop the lies. [/B]
Originally posted by Galan007
Doom was ONLY shown fighting/killing the SAME [b]5 Celestials the entire issue--and at the end, ONLY the remains of those SAME 5 Celestials were shown. There were NO implications that he fought/killed the entire race. NONE whatsoever... I don't even know where this erroneous theory is coming from.If I have to, I'll post the entire f*cking issue in this thread for everyone to see, if that's what it takes to stop the lies. [/B]
Lies!?
Chill the f**k out...
That is my interpretation of that fight and I'm not the only one who came to the same conclusion...
Doom clearly says "they keep coming"...
The implication is that he faced wave after wave of Celestials and after 400 years, "the Celestials are no more"...
To me this seems to indicate that the Celestial race is no more, as in Dooms destroyed their entire race...
Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. That's how I always saw it too. Doom stated "They do not stop coming" and after 400 years "the Celestials are no more." I always assumed the writer meant to imply that Doom took on the entire Celestial race in that universe wave after wave until they all died.👆
We see eye to eye on this...
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Originally posted by Galan007You might be right ,i hope you are,it helps my argument.but on wika it says Doom killed the whole race,can you counter that,I would be thrilled!
Doom was ONLY shown fighting/killing the SAME [b]5 Celestials the entire issue--and at the end, ONLY the remains of those SAME 5 Celestials were shown. There were NO implications that he fought/killed the entire race. NONE whatsoever... I don't even know where this erroneous theory is coming from.If I have to, I'll post the entire f*cking issue in this thread for everyone to see, if that's what it takes to stop the lies. [/B]
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderAs made clear by the fact that Doom was shown fighting the SAME 5 Celestials the entire issue: "they keep coming" is simply in reference to those SAME 5 Celestials still continuing to fight. If he was intended to have fought the entire race of Celestials, we would have undoubtedly been shown more than the SAME 5, and would have undoubtedly been given an explicit statement to that effect.
Lies!?Chill the f**k out...
That is my interpretation of that fight and I'm not the only one who came to the same conclusion...
Doom clearly says "they keep coming"...
The implication is that he faced wave after wave of Celestials and after 400 years, "the Celestials are no more"...
To me this seems to indicate that the Celestial race is no more, as in Dooms destroyed their entire race...
So yeah, nothing indicates that he wiped out the entire race in that 400+ years. That might be your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more. It is entirely unsupported, IMO. 🙂
Do people not realize that even if it were the entire race then that would mean that the race consisted of just those 5 in that reality?
It's not conflicting at all. I don't even get how them keeping up with their coming up means that more Celestials showed up either. There's conflicting wordplay with comics lots of times. Not this time.
Big Guy Galan.
I don`t troll!
Originally posted by Galan007I like arguing over comics,so nothing personal.I`m 47 so probably one of the oldest people that post here.But I have been reading comics for 42 years and have over 4,000 of them(not bragging,maybe a bit).So i am no troll,I admit I don`t have the books in Question.And if they only show the same 5 Celestials then you are probably right(I looked at your scans,sorry I missed it.)I don`t know how the Idea that the whole Celestial race got started?But unless someone can show me a quote from the books I think your right!
Nothing except the comic which blatantly depicts exactly what I've been saying.Keep trolling, though. It's fun. 👆