Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So blacks have no free will and can't make the right decisions, sounds dangerous close to being racist if you think that way.
Getting into free will vs. determinism seems misguided at the moment.
At any rate, black people are like all other people and as such don't have an absolute ability to decide whatever they want independent of outside influences.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Getting into free will vs. determinism seems misguided at the moment.At any rate, black people are like all other people and as such don't have an absolute ability to decide whatever they want independent of outside influences.
Thats complete BS. Are you saying that because of past factors they have no chance to change their future?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You stated a few times the same basic principle and now trying to weasel your way out of it, that black people don't have the ability to change their future, nor do they have free will, and its bs, they do..
he didn't say that. he said people's decisions are influenced by their surroundings/other influences.
not remotely the same thing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
he didn't say that. he said people's decisions are influenced by their surroundings/other influences.not remotely the same thing.
That is it same thing, if my neighbor to my left kills his neighbor the the left, should I kill my neighbor to the right and claim I was influenced?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Time, Bardock never said external influences absolve you of any guilt.The point is that we should work to identify and crush these harmful influences.
Ah so the then people should stop listening to their supposed leaders of their communities and just join the big community known as America.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Greece is bad, yes. As is Spain. Italy too. Would you still say they were as bad as the USA though?Germany though? You think Germany has a bigger race problem than America? Really?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It comes down to this. In Europe, Far Right groups loudly champion racism and make waves in European politics without actually setting policy. In America, there are racists in government who perpetuate racism and other prejudice while claiming we live in a post-racial America, and that anyone who points out examples of racism are just making trouble.
I'd be inclined to agree.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I was using it as an example of a crime which is murder that happens to be a big part of crime in black communities and it is on point whether you agree or not.
you're not addressing his actual, original point.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It comes down to this. In Europe, Far Right groups loudly champion racism and make waves in European politics without actually setting policy. In America, there are racists in government who perpetuate racism and other prejudice while claiming we live in a post-racial America, and that anyone who points out examples of racism are just making trouble.
oh, definitely.
I think Europe has a bigger problem with in-your-face racism.
Whenever I'm in France or Belgium you hear about West African or South Asian immigrants getting beaten up or knifed at a train station just about every day by skinheads or other Far Right thugs, but you also don't have things like Eric Garner where the authorities themselves are found casually abusing minorities.
America is probably a better place for minorities than Europe if you don't want to get beaten up by unemployed kids on your way home from work. For everything else, Europe is the better deal.
The main problem in America is the joblessness among minorities. How can an adult man or woman support themselves if they do not work? I was talking to this guy that made that exact statement. He said that without any means to support himself, he felt just like a boy. A phucking kid. I mean imagine that? Now imagine that same feeling existing in the hearts and minds of millions of others just like him?
How about this scenario.
How many underemployed, and unemployed have nots are actually trying to get an education? The majority are just trying to survive by any means necessary, because realistically if they can't afford to buy toilet paper to wipe their asses, they certainly can't afford a text book that costs over a hundred dollars in many cases. Many of these people keep away from crime, while many others are looking at celebrities, and dreaming of living lives filled with decadence that the media tosses around like candy, and cupcakes. Many of these people are the ones that find themselves selling drugs, guns, and winding up in state prisons. What does this do to the already socially stricken individual? Well it makes their futures quite bleak. They didn't grow up thinking that their lot in life was going to be so sh!tty, but the cold hard truth hit them one day, when they realized that the possibility of going to the best college was just not in their futures.
The rabbit hole so to speak, is indeed deeper than we may at first believe. Racism in America is very much alive, but it has taken on new forms. The KKK isn't out lynching minorities as much any longer. What's happening is that people are being lynched in the workplace. Some of those young adults from the video in the OP aren't racist, but the ones that are, and the ones that are too smart to be pegged for their racist beliefs will one day be at the top in corporations. This is happening all over the US as we speak. What are the chances that minorities will ever hold a top position in those corporations that are run by racists? You phucking tell me.
I read a column, and a man stated that he had the same job as a White co-worker but was being paid only 75% of what his co-worker was making, and yet he had a better education. What is one to believe when reading something like that? I mean if that is true, does that mean that someone from a minority is purposely paid less so that they aren't able to afford to move out of the shanty that they call home, and into a neighborhood that they aren't afraid to raise their children in? I'm fortunate, because at any time that the bullsh!t gets too thick in this country, I can pack up, and take my wife to Canada.
Are these statistics lying?
Years ago, while on AOL chat, a person made a joke. Do you know what he said? He asked the room what was long and Black... His answer was the Welfare line Lolololol. Now how funny is that, when it's true? How can a large group of people remain calm when they are systemically under attack? According to the statistics presented on that website that I just posted, there is a silent war going on in America. I had a scary thought the other day. When will it become audible? Is America in store for another Civil war the likes that has never been seen before?
Just my thoughts on things.