University of Oklahoma racism scandal

Originally posted by StyleTime
I could also see someone totally being detained/arrested depending on where they sang the song. I mean...walk up to a police and start singing "Cop Killer" or "I shot the Sheriff". What do you think will happen?

Regardless, this comparison doesn't work. "Cop Killer" is actually talking about police brutality and "I shot the sheriff" isn't advocating killing cops. The law stepping in on someone singing either is different ball game.

This racist chant, literally, bans black people from their frat among other things. The institution decides to break it up. This isn't the law doing anything, this is the people deciding "hey, you may not have meant harm, but what you are doing is really ****ed up. The fact that you don't even realize it indicates there is a deeper problem within this campus organization that we refuse to tolerate. Your frat is no more."

The problem is though someone DID make mention of the law, that is what I responded to. Someone said they could be found guilty for "making threats". Which makes NO SENSE if they were just singing a song with violent lyrics.

That's the point.

It's just a ****in' song.
Yeah, it was racist and shit. Big deal. Get over it.

The offense was not grave enough to warrant an expulsion. That's why this incident is ridiculous.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
That's the point.

It's just a ****in' song.
Yeah, it was racist and shit. Big deal. Get over it.

The offense was not grave enough to warrant an expulsion.

So if I made a song explicitly about raping your mother, you wouldn't mind it, since it's just a ****in' song.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So if I made a song explicitly about raping your mother, you wouldn't mind it, since it's just a ****in' song.

Why would I give a damn? I don't know you anyways.

Many forget the word****** is in common usage in all pop culture, openly said on radio stations, by black personalities, it's only racist if a white person says it..
That seems pretty racist and hypocritical to me, "do as I say, not as I do."

Originally posted by Surtur
The problem is though someone DID make mention of the law, that is what I responded to. Someone said they could be found guilty for "making threats". Which makes NO SENSE if they were just singing a song with violent lyrics.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Yes.

Why would I give a damn? I don't know you anyways.

Please remember people, this isn't just about a song. It's about a song sang in a specific context. You guys are jumping out into broad society with this stuff.

Originally posted by Lestov16
So if I made a song explicitly about raping your mother, you wouldn't mind it, since it's just a ****in' song.

There is a difference between minding that and feeling someone should be LEGALLY punished for doing that.

The quote I originally responded too was someone saying they could be found guilty of making "threats" because they sang a violent song lyric.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Many forget the word****** is in common usage in all pop culture, openly said on radio stations, by black personalities, it's only racist if a white person says it..
That seems pretty racist and hypocritical to me, "do as I say, not as I do."

I do agree with this. Don't know why "nigga" is such a popular term. But really, you'll notice only the dumb black people say this. I've said it before on the forum, but only in a parodying manner.

That being stated, are you saying because black people say it, it gave the kids on the bus a right to say it, and sing about lynching and discrimination as well.?

Everyone overreacts when something has to do with race or sexuality these days.

It seems to me the ones affected the most are the socially-repressed people like the blacks, homosexuals, and females/feminists.

The repercussion is that the punishment, at most times, is too severe when weighed to the negative action that was done by the perpetrator.
This incident is a prime example. They expelled students over a petty crime (if it even is a crime to sing racist songs or make racist comments) that hampered the future of these said students. They spent money, time, and effort for nothing... just because of a ****in' chant. WTF

Originally posted by StyleTime
I thought Robtard was referring to moral responsibility rather than legal issues. I think he was just trying to figure out why the school would expel every kid involved, back before everyone discovered only 2 were expelled.

Perhaps, but I just found the phrasing weird. Saying "they could be find guilty of threats" sounds like they'd be found guilty in a court of law, as opposed to the school just thinking they are sh*tty people with sh*tty morals. Something tells me though if they banned every frat that contained d-bags then..pretty much no frats would exist anywhere, ever.

Sure morally, it is wrong. But when it comes to legalities there shouldn't even be a discussion, it's in poor taste, but not illegal.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I do agree with this. Don't know why "nigga" is such a popular term. But really, you'll notice only the dumb black people say this.

Denzel Washinton, Al Sharpton, Chris Tucker, Dave Chapelle are dumb?

By Denzel, you mean the actor, or the characters he plays?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
just because of a ****in' chant. WTF

A chant that talks about murdering and discriminating against an entire race of people.

If these kids were expelled for saying the N word, then some singers/rappers should be banned for saying the MF/F word.

Jeez, this thread is really exposing the racists on this board

Originally posted by Surtur
Perhaps, but I just found the phrasing weird. Saying "they could be find guilty of threats" sounds like they'd be found guilty in a court of law, as opposed to the school just thinking they are sh*tty people with sh*tty morals.

Sure morally, it is wrong. But when it comes to legalities there shouldn't even be a discussion, it's in poor taste, but not illegal.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If these kids were expelled for saying the N word, then some singers/rappers should be banned for saying the MF/F word.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If these kids were expelled for simply saying the N word

So now you're trying to downplay their murderous/racist chant?

Originally posted by Surtur
There is a difference between minding that and feeling someone should be LEGALLY punished for doing that.

The quote I originally responded too was someone saying they could be found guilty of making "threats" because they sang a violent song lyric.

I'm not arguing the legality. As I said in the OP, they're probably protected legally via free speech laws. But to say they deserve no punishment whatsoever is ridiculous.

Yet Eminem and black rappers are rewarded with fame for saying things like that. Let's face it, the elite do whatever they want and we all argue about it like it "matters" to us.

Division of the people is the easiest way to conquest.

I've never heard Eminem say "nigga". If he did, it was a RARE occasion.

And stop trying to compare this racist chant to rap songs. It's a strawman.