Molecule Man vs. Thanos w/HOTU

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Originally posted by Galan007

Whole scan:
http://i.imgur.com/Ws6GAvN.jpg
-F4 Annual #27

Thanks for the scan Galan.

Originally posted by zom1967
I should have said ,some info I got from Marvel and some I got from actual physics books.The 16th dimensional super space where the cosmics met was from marvel.The 11 to 26 dimensions came from string theory.And more is not always better,a knot can only be tied in 3 dimensional space.Any more than that and there is to much room to ever tie a not.I said we could beat flat landers(2D people) because of our better perspective.If you go far up the dimensional chart this may become a weakness,so I can`t say a being from the 26th D could beat one from the 5th D,so myxy could well beat this being.I am not trying to say the higher the better,physical laws change with each spatial D.Just saying we do (us in the 3rd D)have clear advantage over 2 D beings like flat landers.

So its essentially inconsistent?

I am certainly no expert

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Thanks for the scan Galan.

So its essentially inconsistent?

My friend,but i do know that people from the 3rd D have a big advantage to two D people.And beings from the forth spacial D have a big advantage on us,because of their perspective.By the way it is really the 5th D because Einstein included time as a D,so this is where myxy really comes from.Thats why he has these god like powers.But after that it gets foggy,I have never read a physics book that clearly defines the 6th and 7th D.But I will dive back into it as this thread has rekindled my interest and get back to you!

Originally posted by zom1967
My friend,but i do know that people from the 3rd D have a big advantage to two D people.And beings from the forth spacial D have a big advantage on us,because of their perspective.By the way it is really the 5th D because Einstein included time as a D,so this is where myxy really comes from.Thats why he has these god like powers.But after that it gets foggy,I have never read a physics book that clearly defines the 6th and 7th D.But I will dive back into it as this thread has rekindled my interest and get back to you!

Ive read Greenes book on string theory, so i have a general understanding on the perspective changes per spatial dimension.

3rd dimension: the 3rd dimension is essentially depth, z axis, hence the second dimension lacking depth becomes essentially a paper like dimension to us, so we can do anything we want to the second dimension, but in paper fashion, so we can tear the second dimension up like paper, erase it with an eraser, re-draw it etc etc.

4th dimension: the 4th dimension is time, from the 4th dimension, all points of time is occurring simultaneously. From the 4th dimension, the 3rd dimensions time is like a long string, where the past, present and the future is occurring simultaneously, so 4 dimensional beings would see all point of time at once, its essentially pseudo-omnipresence.......4 dimensional beings are like us, but the difference is that they'll exist in all points in time altogether at once.

5th dimension: this is where time is perceived as a dimension, because time is perceived as a dimension (time is 4 dimensional btw), its perceived in a way we perceive the 2nd dimension, something that can be manipulated.

6th dimension: theres essentially no difference between the 6th and 5th dimension, they are essentially equals.

7th dimension: Heres another big jump, the 7th dimension is a completely separate set of infinite universes, the difference is that these infinite universes have different start conditions (they didnt begin the same, such as the big bang)........however powerwise, theres no difference, they are the same as the 5th and the 6th dimensional beings.

8th dimension: Not much of a difference, the 8th dimension is the point where each of the universes in the 7th dimension, branch out their own infinite universes, powerwise, they are equals to the 7th, 6th and the 5th dimension.

9th dimension: This is where powerlevels increase, the 9th dimension is another set of infinite universes, but all with different starting conditions AND different laws of physics, this is a tricky one as some of the universes can possess laws of physics which can own any lower dimension, while other dimensions physics will be weaker.

10th dimension: anything and everything exists.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Ive read Greenes book on string theory, so i have a general understanding on the perspective changes per spatial dimension.

3rd dimension: the 3rd dimension is essentially depth, z axis, hence the second dimension lacking depth becomes essentially a paper like dimension to us, so we can do anything we want to the second dimension, but in paper fashion, so we can tear the second dimension up like paper, erase it with an eraser, re-draw it etc etc.

4th dimension: the 4th dimension is time, from the 4th dimension, all points of time is occurring simultaneously. From the 4th dimension, the 3rd dimensions time is like a long string, where the past, present and the future is occurring simultaneously, so 4 dimensional beings would see all point of time at once, its essentially pseudo-omnipresence.......4 dimensional beings are like us, but the difference is that they'll exist in all points in time altogether at once.

5th dimension: this is where time is perceived as a dimension, because time is perceived as a dimension (time is 4 dimensional btw), its perceived in a way we perceive the 2nd dimension, something that can be manipulated.

6th dimension: theres essentially no difference between the 6th and 5th dimension, they are essentially equals.

7th dimension: Heres another big jump, the 7th dimension is a completely separate set of infinite universes, the difference is that these infinite universes have different start conditions (they didnt begin the same, such as the big bang)........however powerwise, theres no difference, they are the same as the 5th and the 6th dimensional beings.

8th dimension: Not much of a difference, the 8th dimension is the point where each of the universes in the 7th dimension, branch out their own infinite universes, powerwise, they are equals to the 7th, 6th and the 5th dimension.

9th dimension: This is where powerlevels increase, the 9th dimension is another set of infinite universes, but all with different starting conditions AND different laws of physics, this is a tricky one as some of the universes can possess laws of physics which can own any lower dimension, while other dimensions physics will be weaker.

10th dimension: anything and everything exists.


This is wrong.

If it is wrong don`t just say it explain why?Vasto lord 1234 sounds like he knows his shit!And i am going to buy this Brian Green`s book,also check out Kip Thorn and of course Steven Hawkings books!

Originally posted by zom1967
If it is wrong don`t just say it explain why?

Because it doesn't have anything to do with string theory. String theories are built to solve problems in the standard model, and their dimensionality are determined by the elimination of the anomalies associated with those problems; and they are not limited by ten dimensions either. Bosonic string theory comes together at 26 dimensions, and the most popular model, M-theory, that unifies I, IIA, IIB, HO and HE comes together at eleven dimensions.

Futhermore, there is nothing in string theory that says anything about what these dimensions represent. It's just mathematical models that would solve problems in the standard model.

That`s a great answer and proves you know your shit,but I just wanted to know why you felt that way,not trying to bait you!And thats why I said 10-to 26 dimensions.Kaku has always said string theory is 22nd century physics that got dropped into 21st century physics.And they are not even close to the theory of everything.Although he thinks string theory will eventually get us their!And Mathematical theroies are all we have to go with now

Originally posted by Astner
Because it doesn't have anything to do with string theory. String theories are built to solve problems in the standard model, and their dimensionality are determined by the elimination of the anomalies associated with those problems; and they are not limited by ten dimensions either. Bosonic string theory comes together at 26 dimensions, and the most popular model, M-theory, that unifies I, IIA, IIB, HO and HE comes together at eleven dimensions.

Futhermore, there is nothing in string theory that says anything about what these dimensions represent. It's just mathematical models that would solve problems in the standard model.

http://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/12/16/heres-visual-guide-10-dimensions-reality/

My bad, i was citing superstring theory, According to superstring theory, there are at least ten dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions).

And im sure you pulled your information from some forum site, ive read some of briane greenes books, im upto date with the stance of string theory, heck theres even discussions in the science community to completely eradicate string theory as its failed as a model, but they arent due to lack of knowledge on the grand scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T0hk0mVjOs

Briane Greene here provides a completely different explanation of dimensions, according to BG dimensions are data for 3 dimensions, specifically data for direction. The 3rd dimension is the greatest and the largest dimension in that respect.

So yeah, im not wrong, im actually right for the most part, as to how dimensions might work according to standard beliefs (thats merging two physicists beliefs, michi kaku and briane greenes). If we accept dimensions in relation to the many worlds theory, multiverse theory etc etc, then my above description is spot on, my description was based on super string theory, which nails the basics for spatial dimensions.

Look don`t be enemies over this,you are both smart guys.I am not going to comment till I read Brian Greene`s book!but kudos to you both for knowing so much about physics.I hope all the young people in the u.s.a get interested in this subject,thanks guys!

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
http://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/12/16/heres-visual-guide-10-dimensions-reality/

You go to a blog site that promotes magic and spirituality for physics?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
My bad, i was citing superstring theory, According to superstring theory, there are at least ten dimensions in the universe

No. The models you refer to; I, IIA, IIB, HO and HE all need exactly ten dimensions, not more, not less. M-theory, which connects IIA and HE uses eleven. But it's not the same dimensions. You don't use the same matrices in M-theory as you do in IIA.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
(M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions).

No, they don't suggest anything. The models require an exact set of dimensions to eliminate the anomalies.

Example for bosonic string theory:

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
And im sure you pulled your information from some forum site,

I have a Master's Degree in Fundamental Physics. I've even taken a course in string theory.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
ive read some of briane greenes books,

Brian Greene's books are pop-science.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
im upto date with the stance of string theory

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Originally posted by VastoLord1234
, heck theres even discussions in the science community to completely eradicate string theory as its failed as a model, but they arent due to lack of knowledge on the grand scheme.

Does that community happen to be on the blog site you linked earlier?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T0hk0mVjOs

Briane Greene here provides a completely different explanation of dimensions, according to BG dimensions are data for 3 dimensions, specifically data for direction. The 3rd dimension is the greatest and the largest dimension in that respect.


No. Like Brian Greene said: a dimension is an independent direction. The third dimension isn't volume. With three dimensions you'll span volume, but by themselves length, width and depth are just independent directions and can be interchanged. And that's standard linear algebra.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
So yeah, im not wrong, im actually right for the most part,

No. You're completely wrong.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
as to how dimensions might work according to standard beliefs (thats merging two physicists beliefs, michi kaku and briane greenes).

Michio Kaku and Brain Greene aren't scientists—as in they're not currently conducting any scientific research—they are popularizing science by writing pop-science books and speaking in various documentaries. And as media icons they are not teaching physics, they're teaching about physics.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
If we accept dimensions in relation to the many worlds theory, multiverse theory etc etc,

There is no many world's theory, it's an hypothesis. It's philosophy. Not science.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
then my above description is spot on, my description was based on super string theory, which nails the basics for spatial dimensions.

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I've watched enough Discovery Channel to know that everything Assnerd just said is wrong. 👆

It's like watching a guy with a stick fight someone in a tank.....

Originally posted by Galan007
I've watched enough Discovery Channel to know that everything Assnerd just said is wrong. 👆

😆 😆 😆

Ouch....

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ By the time Thanos absorbed the LT,

the [b]LT had already manipulated the power of Two Comic book companies in one hand. [/B]

Still peddling the same lie I see.

It was explicitly a single universe which Thanos destroyed.

Not omni-whatever shit Master is trying to peddle for all these years.

THOTU means Heart of the Universe.

Its not THOTOV, 😂

And how he tries to sneak in this two companies bs to provoke 😂.
So this other company, since it doesn't exist in reality is a fictional company in the Marvel verse and hence as a part of Marvels property still marvel? So he held just one company? Impressive! dur

It wasn't even marvel universe. He was holding the architects of two metaverses, not actual metaverses.

But anything to wank LT I guess.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
http://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/12/16/heres-visual-guide-10-dimensions-reality/

My bad, i was citing superstring theory, According to superstring theory, there are at least ten dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions).

And im sure you pulled your information from some forum site, ive read some of briane greenes books, im upto date with the stance of string theory, heck theres even discussions in the science community to completely eradicate string theory as its failed as a model, but they arent due to lack of knowledge on the grand scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T0hk0mVjOs

Briane Greene here provides a completely different explanation of dimensions, according to BG dimensions are data for 3 dimensions, specifically data for direction. The 3rd dimension is the greatest and the largest dimension in that respect.

So yeah, im not wrong, im actually right for the most part, as to how dimensions might work according to standard beliefs (thats merging two physicists beliefs, michi kaku and briane greenes). If we accept dimensions in relation to the many worlds theory, multiverse theory etc etc, then my above description is spot on, my description was based on super string theory, which nails the basics for spatial dimensions.

You are 100% correct, don't listen to the other guys, they lack the necessary imagination and will never have a real "thought". You on the other hand will discover the missing two dimensions!!!!!!!! Go for it!!!!! **** the brain dead idea digester!!!!

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