Feminists outraged by Batgirl Cover....DC bows down...

Started by Branlor Swift13 pages

With what Joker did, he might as well have. Can't be any worse than permanent no walkitis.

Kind of a waste if he didn't when you think about it.

I think only All Star Joker was capable of sexual activity.

Smurph, I'm amazed you consider Q99's stuff quality when it's basically the most inflammatory tumblr shit I've seen in the comic section of KMC.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes that's a good point. Why would she be scared when she's tied up by the biggest psycho in comics who has a gun and is likely in his own warehouse filled with thugs?

And everyone knows Barbara has never cried before. And everyone knows it isn't a reference to the worst moment in her life when she got possibly raped, but for sure got pictures of her taken when she was naked, and got shot and crippled.

Why would she be crying? She should be mad! No woman ever cries.


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As if Tim wasn't scared out of his mind when Joker had him trapped with him in a car.

Or when Jason got killed by Joker.

Hell Batman has repeatedly cried in canon too and he's an emotional tank compared to anyone else in comics, let alone ****ing Barbara.

Didn't Batman cry when he was pleading with Joker to stop being such a dick?

I also think Batman got a bit teary when he found "attraction" in Joker's eyes.

Meanwhile, this cover is okay:

http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/CrossedBad16Torture.jpg?100bf3

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

No visible tears. Don't see anything wrong. It's also girls doing it. Diverse girls.

If anything it's really progressive.

Man, I don't even know if y'all are joking around or not anymore.

The naysayers didnt have a problem with women crying in general. They felt that the totality of the image implied a rape, which (they feel) doesn't mesh well with current depictions of Batgirl.

Crossed is an entirely different ballgame, regardless of the genders involved.

RAPE?

These tumblr feminists are getting cray.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Man, I don't even know if y'all are joking around or not anymore.

The naysayers didnt have a problem with women crying in general. They felt that the totality of the image implied a rape, which (they feel) doesn't mesh well with current depictions of Batgirl.

Crossed is an entirely different ballgame, regardless of the genders involved.

If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Instead, we got stuff like this:

http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909

Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"

Originally posted by -Pr-
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Instead, we got stuff like this:

http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909

Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"

lol seriously? Male heroes dont cry? Male heroes dont dwell on their failures?

Originally posted by -Pr-
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Instead, we got stuff like this:

http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909

Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"

Her agency! Good god what about her agency!

Also, lol at everyone claiming Batgirl was raped.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Her agency! Good god what about her agency!

Also, lol at everyone claiming Batgirl was raped.

You'd think getting a bullet shot in your spine that makes your legs useless would be worse than getting raped... but a penis is more powerful than a bullet I guess.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Instead, we got stuff like this:

http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909

Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"

I read the quote and thought, hey that's alright. Then I read a couple paragraphs and couldn't do it.

THE LOOK. HE LOOKS LIKE SEXUAL ASSAULT JOKER AND NOT NORMAL PSYCHO JOKER

Originally posted by Existere
It's really frustrating that it's seemingly impossible for an effective discussion on this/adjacent topics to take place without it devolving into inflammatory bullshit.

I appreciated reading Q99 and Pr's stuff on the first page, but since then it's just been pages of this: lol, what?

and all the rageposting in this thread...

There's obviously lots to talk about concerning this cover, so it would be cool if this thread could facilitate that function.


👆 Be nice if Q99 came back so we can have a different viewpoint around. The other side is already over represented here.
Originally posted by krisblaze
RAPE?

These tumblr feminists are getting cray.


I didn't get the rape implication when I saw it either, but I don't think changing the cover is a big deal.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Instead, we got stuff like this:

http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909

Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"


Well, I think that is all the issue was originally. The problem now is that everyone is arguing, so people jump to broader topics like sexism in general. (Look how quickly this thread went way, way out there. I get much of it was humor, but wow.)

I don't agree with his part about female heroes and trauma.

That's entirely my fault for derailing, or at the very least my fault for jumping on q99's derailing.

It's pretty clear Joker is asexual. He won't be raping anyone in the main universe.

I would have said pansexual rather than asexual, tbh.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I also think Batman got a bit teary when he found "attraction" in Joker's eyes.

Meanwhile, this cover is okay:

http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/CrossedBad16Torture.jpg?100bf3

Of course that cover's not okay. It's the comic equivalent of torture porn, shock for it's own sake.

DC also recently got into hot water with Harley Quinn committing suicide in a bathtub contest, whatever that was about. I think they are really tone deaf about these things.

Originally posted by krisblaze

Meanwhile, this cover is okay:

http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/CrossedBad16Torture.jpg?100bf3

What the .......

it's actually a decent comic in places. Just really, really dark.