Smurph, I'm amazed you consider Q99's stuff quality when it's basically the most inflammatory tumblr shit I've seen in the comic section of KMC.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes that's a good point. Why would she be scared when she's tied up by the biggest psycho in comics who has a gun and is likely in his own warehouse filled with thugs?And everyone knows Barbara has never cried before. And everyone knows it isn't a reference to the worst moment in her life when she got possibly raped, but for sure got pictures of her taken when she was naked, and got shot and crippled.
Why would she be crying? She should be mad! No woman ever cries.
As if Tim wasn't scared out of his mind when Joker had him trapped with him in a car.
I also think Batman got a bit teary when he found "attraction" in Joker's eyes.
Meanwhile, this cover is okay:
http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/CrossedBad16Torture.jpg?100bf3
Man, I don't even know if y'all are joking around or not anymore.
The naysayers didnt have a problem with women crying in general. They felt that the totality of the image implied a rape, which (they feel) doesn't mesh well with current depictions of Batgirl.
Crossed is an entirely different ballgame, regardless of the genders involved.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Man, I don't even know if y'all are joking around or not anymore.The naysayers didnt have a problem with women crying in general. They felt that the totality of the image implied a rape, which (they feel) doesn't mesh well with current depictions of Batgirl.
Crossed is an entirely different ballgame, regardless of the genders involved.
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.
Instead, we got stuff like this:
http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909
Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"
Originally posted by -Pr-lol seriously? Male heroes dont cry? Male heroes dont dwell on their failures?
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.Instead, we got stuff like this:
http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909
Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"
Originally posted by -Pr-
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.Instead, we got stuff like this:
http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909
Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"
Her agency! Good god what about her agency!
Also, lol at everyone claiming Batgirl was raped.
Originally posted by krisblazeYou'd think getting a bullet shot in your spine that makes your legs useless would be worse than getting raped... but a penis is more powerful than a bullet I guess.
Her agency! Good god what about her agency!Also, lol at everyone claiming Batgirl was raped.
Originally posted by -Pr-I read the quote and thought, hey that's alright. Then I read a couple paragraphs and couldn't do it.
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.Instead, we got stuff like this:
http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909
Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"
THE LOOK. HE LOOKS LIKE SEXUAL ASSAULT JOKER AND NOT NORMAL PSYCHO JOKER
Originally posted by Existere
It's really frustrating that it's seemingly impossible for an effective discussion on this/adjacent topics to take place without it devolving into inflammatory bullshit.I appreciated reading Q99 and Pr's stuff on the first page, but since then it's just been pages of this: lol, what?
and all the rageposting in this thread...
There's obviously lots to talk about concerning this cover, so it would be cool if this thread could facilitate that function.
Originally posted by krisblaze
RAPE?These tumblr feminists are getting cray.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If that was all the problem was, it wouldn't have been that big a deal.Instead, we got stuff like this:
http://io9.com/the-real-problems-with-this-controversial-batgirl-cove-1692184909
Flat out lies used under the guise of "this is sexist!"
I don't agree with his part about female heroes and trauma.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I also think Batman got a bit teary when he found "attraction" in Joker's eyes.Meanwhile, this cover is okay:
http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/CrossedBad16Torture.jpg?100bf3
Of course that cover's not okay. It's the comic equivalent of torture porn, shock for it's own sake.
DC also recently got into hot water with Harley Quinn committing suicide in a bathtub contest, whatever that was about. I think they are really tone deaf about these things.
Originally posted by krisblazeMeanwhile, this cover is okay:
http://cdn.avatar-press.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/CrossedBad16Torture.jpg?100bf3
What the .......