It gets better. There are actually at least two instances where Wolverine EXPLICITLY shows that he is not a bullet timer.
Cop shooting him in the head mid-sentence.
And the best one of all:
Notice how statue-esque Wolverine is whilst the bullets slowly approach them? Outside of his claws trying to pop out, he doesn't even budge the whole sequence.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Deadpool performed said feat and Wolverine was able to keep pace with him. Not hard to grasp. Hence why I said we go with quantifiable speed feats
Deadpool didn't perform said feat while Wolverine was keeping pace with him. Again, please provide proof that Wolverine has BT feats.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
It gets better. There are actually at least two instances where Wolverine EXPLICITLY shows that he is not a bullet timer.Cop shooting him in the head mid-sentence.
And the best one of all:
Notice how statue-esque Wolverine is whilst the bullets slowly approach them? Outside of his claws trying to pop out, he doesn't even budge the whole sequence.
Superman, DBZ characters, Primarchs, etc who have feats way the **** into the multi-mach digits range have been hit by bullets too several times. Not really much of a justification
Hell, like I said, comic Wolverine has quantifiable speed feats, even he's been hit by bullets
Deadpool didn't perform said feat while Wolverine was keeping pace with him
Yeah, pretty much what I figured, your entire argument relies on making unquantified statements based on how something "looks" and assuming Deadpool's speed is some kind of technique specific to him (which it isn't)
Also
"Gotenks never zipped around the earth several times when fighting Super Buu"
"Yusuke didn't zip around mountain ranges when Raizen slapped him silly"
"There was no expilcit mention of microsecond movement when Angron blitzed Kharn, Lorgar blitzed Argel Tal, etc"
"Sailor Moon didn't zip around a galaxy when she fought Galaxia"
This essentially your argument. Of course I expect reliance of flashy speed tropes as "justification"
Your argument is still essentially that characters can't be fast unless they have a quantifiable speed feat themselves, which could easily be applied across all of fiction
Hell, Sephiroth has no bullet timing feats personally, yet he ****s around with guiz like Cloud and Zack who have deflected bullets
Senator Armstrong has no bullet timing feats himself, yet he's as fast as Raiden who can deflect bullets and missiles with his sword
Also, like I said, timeframe means dick, it's not exclusive to long running series so, why bother mentioning it?
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Superman, DBZ characters, Primarchs, etc who have feats way the **** into the multi-mach digits range have been hit by bullets too several times. Not really much of a justification
So, you attempt to discredit actual on screen direct proof of Wolverine being shown completely unable to react to bullets by citing characters that are completely unrelated to the character in question? Sorry, not gonna fly.
And my second evidence is not about him getting hit by bullets. It's him being a complete statue (outside his claws attempting to pop out) while bullets were fired right at his group.
You understand that many of the characters you mention actually have direct evidence that show that they have super speed, right? You have no direct evidence for Wolverine.
Direct evidence >>> powerscaling
My proof >>> your proof.
This is game. Check. Mate.
We can stop wasting time and get a mod ruling if you wish.
There's no way the xenomorphs acid affects Wolverines adamantium
However once wolverine gets caught in the carcass of an xeno or takes
A face full of blood splatter after killing one it's over for him.
Wolverine won't be expecting the acid for blood and as soon as
He falls victim to it he will be disoriented just long enough for the
Other xenos to close in on him and finish the job. I could Wolverine
Taking on two xenos without being ko'ed but anymore and he'll need a significant
Amount of healing time
Originally posted by Nibedicus
[B]So, you attempt to discredit actual on screen direct proof of Wolverine being shown completely unable to react to bullets by citing characters that are completely unrelated to the character in question? Sorry, not gonna fly.
Far from it, your saying "he's no a bullet timer because he's been hit by bullets", as if this is anything new in fiction
And my second evidence is not about him getting hit by bullets. It's him being a complete statue (outside his claws attempting to pop out) while bullets were fired right at his group.You understand that many of the characters you mention actually have direct evidence that show that they have super speed, right? You have no direct evidence.
Some of them have no quantifiable speed feats outside of fighting characters who have speed feats as well, to boot
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Far from it, your saying "he's no a bullet timer because he's been hit by bullets", as if this is anything new in fictionSome of them have no quantifiable speed feats outside of fighting characters who have speed feats as well, to boot
No, I used 2 types of proof:
1) he was hit by bullets
2) he was a statue in a scene where bullets were fired and the ppl with actual super speed did the work.
Other characters having no speed "feats" has no bearing to this discussion.
My proof >>> your proof.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
No, I used 2 types of proof:1) he was hit by bullets
2) he was a statue in a scene where bullets were fired and the ppl with actual super speed did the work.Other characters having no speed "feats" has no bearing to this discussion.
My proof >>> your proof.
He has no proof, all he has is speculation that because Wade used superspeed in one scene that he must have also used it in another.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
[B]No, I used 2 types of proof:1) he was hit by bullets
2) he was a statue in a scene where bullets were fired and the ppl with actual super speed did the work.
So basically an argument revolving around style followed by "oh we was hit by a bullet so I can ignore times where he's tagged guys with speed feats and powerscaling" and "low end showings do count as evidence"
Other characters having no speed "feats" has no bearing to this discussion.
Well hey it wouldn't be the first time we powerscaled characters with no quantifiable speed feats to ones that do based off fighting them on fairly even grounds
Wade used superspeed in one scene that he must have also used it in another.
Yeah, taking the best feats and assuming it to be definitive of their usual capability, it's how it's done everywhere and if you don't like it you should prolly hang out at one of those DBZ/Nardotard infested cesspits, or HeroChat
Originally posted by StealthRanger
So basically an argument revolving around style followed by "oh we was hit by a bullet so I can ignore times where he's tagged guys with speed feats and powerscaling" and "low end showings do count as evidence"
They explicitly show Wolverine having no Bullet time speed. That is what is called direct proof. Multiple instances where it is shown explicitly.
Funny how you try to backtrack after you claimed that no such evidence exist, tho.
Let's compare evidences shall we?
I have multiple instances where Wolverine is being shown completely unable to respond bullets.
You have one instance where he is shown to fight one guy with one instance of bullet timing pre-modification. And you assume Wolverine was fighting at superspeed even tho he was never shown that on the very scene in question. Where it was likely he was slowed down by the writers to give the main characters a chance.
Who do you think has better proof here? Honestly? Come on, be honest.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Well hey it wouldn't be the first time we powerscaled characters with no quantifiable speed feats to ones that do
I don't know who "we" is. But those are different debates where you'd still be called out to provide proof.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yeah, taking the best feats and assuming it to be definitive of their usual capability, it's how it's done everywhere and if you don't like it you should prolly hang out at one of those DBZ/Nardotard infested cesspits, or HeroChat
This would work were we discussing how Wade would do in a battleboard debate (this is called "full capacity"😉. This is NOT used, however, used as a standard in describing each of his on screen scenes where story as well as PIS/jobbing exist. Those we take in a per-showing capacity.