Anakin Skywalker vs HoT

Originally posted by Selenial
I seriously don't understand how you people can say it's fine to just dismiss a canon source. The only person who's "exaggerated" in that is Windu, everyone else has perfectly matched showings in the rest of the EU.

Anakin ragdolled Ventress like she was nothing, and outdueled count Dooku pretty hastily. He is above the HOT in every way.

I'm not dismissing it, just asking that we accept that it's not representative of character's abilities given that it's so exaggerated and contrary to how the vast majority of their portrayals show them as. And has literally been said to be exaggerated portrayals.

And the Hero brushed off Sel Makor like he was nothing and ragdolled Vitiate after defeating him. Both times in the heart of their power. I'm pretty sure two godlike entities > Ventress and Dooku.

Source, quote, etc please. And since it matches with Anakin's other showings it's fine.

Has Sel Makor actually done anything impressive? Literally everyone who Hes tried to dominate has beaten him. And vitiate was weakened and defeated, that's not surprising.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Eh? Which revelations?

That dome was damaged by blasterfire and bringing down a dome isn't even that hard. Its large size would work against it, since more weight it being supported by the lower portions. Weakening the bottom could cause the whole thing to collapse. Besides which, that was an involuntary display of power and it's less impressive than what the Barsen'thor or the Vitiate the Hero fought were capable of and both are inferior to the Hero.

Wow you've fallen low. You're actually arguing that moving a ****ing boulder is more impressive than bringing down a cathedral sized dome...what do I even say to this?

Originally posted by Selenial
Source, quote, etc please. And since it matches with Anakin's other showings it's fine.

Has Sel Makor actually done anything impressive? Literally everyone who Hes tried to dominate has beaten him. And vitiate was weakened and defeated, that's not surprising.

No it doesn't, lol. And I'm not wasting time looking for those sources, we all know it's true and has been stated many times.

He's created monsters out of thin air as well as avatars that are superior to any Voss Mystic. He also had enough power to perform planet-scale attacks and was said to be a threat to all existence if he escaped. Plus he was able to contain Vitiate with Vitiate unable to destroy him. Sel Makor is clearly a monstrously powerful being, the collective darkside of two species. AND they were in the heart of the Nightmare Lands which can turn even Jedi and Sith Lords to gibbering insanity. A place formed from Sel Makor's power. And the Hero was also weakened and worn out from fighting through legions of Sith and Imperial Guards on Dromund Kaas. Plus Vitiate had time to recover.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Wow you've fallen low. You're actually arguing that moving a ****ing boulder is more impressive than bringing down a cathedral sized dome...what do I even say to this?

No, I'm not.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah, "I REALLY WANT ALL OF THE PT CHARACTERS TO SUCK!" as opposed to "I REALLY WANT ALL CHARACTERS NOT COMBATIVELY AFFILIATED WITH MOVIE CHARACTERS TO BE BENEATH DOOKU, AND MOST OF THEM TO BE BENEATH VENTRESS!!!!"

👆

Be combatively affiliated with PT or gtfo, tbh.

what about characters from after the movies are they fine?

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it doesn't, lol. And I'm not wasting time looking for those sources, we all know it's true and has been stated many times.

They're combat affiliated with Luke and Caedus so they're okay. It's basically just anyone without a connection to the Skywalker family tree that sucks ass.

Right DMB?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your credibility is going down the drain, broski.

Whereas I'm currently defending you from accusations of being a mere troll. Right.....

Originally posted by ILS
They're combat affiliated with Luke and Caedus so they're okay. It's basically just anyone without a connection to the Skywalker family tree that sucks ass.

Right DMB?

oh man phew

Originally posted by Nephthys
Whereas I'm currently defending you from accusations of being a mere troll. Right.....

I have problems with you being a dick with those opinions.

There's a difference.

I'm not being a dick, I'm just being lazy and apathetic. My statement wasn't any ruder and more aggressive than hers.

Given the circumstances, that's probably not the best move.

Thanks for the advice. I hope I don't waste all my good note-taking pens jotting down your pearls of wisdom. So majestic! Much beard!

(^ Neph getting super rudenasty up in here)

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thanks chilled. 😍

And others.

You're welcome.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah, "I REALLY WANT ALL OF THE PT CHARACTERS TO SUCK!" as opposed to "I REALLY WANT ALL CHARACTERS NOT COMBATIVELY AFFILIATED WITH MOVIE CHARACTERS TO BE BENEATH DOOKU, AND MOST OF THEM TO BE BENEATH VENTRESS!!!!"

👆

facepalm

Originally posted by Selenial
I seriously don't understand how you people can say it's fine to just dismiss a canon source. The only person who's "exaggerated" in that is Windu, everyone else has perfectly matched showings in the rest of the EU.

Anakin ragdolled Ventress like she was nothing, and outdueled count Dooku pretty hastily. He is above the HOT in every way.

Well the creators of the cartoon did say that under extreme circumstances, force users were shown to unleash themselves.

That said, Windu's feats in the 'minis' only looked more flashy compared to TCW, but in all seriousness, I don't see how force waving a bunch of frozen droids is all that over the top compared to his showings in TCW. The newer series had him pushing over ET-AT walkers. Considering the size and weight of the walker, blasting away a very large army of droids with a force wave shouldn't be beneath him. Smashing two droids into thousands of pieces by clinching his fist in the 'minis?' He's done that to dozens of them with a one handed force push in the newer series as well; not to mention lifting a massive platform and then crushing a separatist war vehicle like an ant with it.

His mile long jumps were perhaps the only exaggerations. Even blasting away hundreds of battle droids in conjunction with Yoda was replicated by Maul and Savage on hundreds of soldiers in a TCW tie-in comic.

Why do you even need the 2003 feats then? 😉

Originally posted by Nephthys
Why do you even need the 2003 feats then? 😉

Same reason you need game mechanic feats.

When do we ignore feats? The 'minis' are part of the Legends continuity.

Anakin still crushes him like an insect even without them.