Originally posted by krisblaze
^Yeah maybe, but the best of Daredevil and Spidey can easily compete with the best of Batman.Especially since the Daredevil books aren't afraid to drag Matt through the shitter.
Even the best of Batman's arcs seem eerily similar, though that might be because Snyder's just a copying hack.
I don't count Spidey as a street, though. I'm also not talking about quality, but quantity. It's a misconception that DC only focuses on herald level characters when they have:
Deathstroke
Green Arrow
Midnighter
Grifter
Suicide Squad
Harley Quinn
Gotham Academy
Batman
Grayson
Batwing
Batgirl
Batwoman
Blackhawks
Red Hood
Robin
Secret Six
GI Zombie
Catwoman
All coming out within the last few years or so.
Originally posted by krisblaze
^Yeah maybe, but the best of Daredevil and Spidey can easily compete with the best of Batman.Especially since the Daredevil books aren't afraid to drag Matt through the shitter.
Even the best of Batman's arcs seem eerily similar, though that might be because Snyder's just a copying hack.
wth--snyder is excellent, at times even better than that. american vampire was fantastic. damn, dude, maybe you should just rename yourself krisnegative. sneer
the best of dd can certainly compete with some of batman's best though.
Originally posted by leonidas
have you read american vampire? and seriously, what arcs do you feel like he really seemed to steal?
I read up until the point where she started sleeping with the "evil" vampire. It's been a few years.
Court of Owls especially, though a lot of his Batman stuff feels extremely familiar. Not in Morrison's "referencing old obscure stuff" familiar way, but in a "I've seen this before" kind of way.
I'm coming off way too strong on Snyder though. The initial post was just an exaggerated claim.
Originally posted by Star428
Animated films don't matter? That's news to me. I enjoy them just as much if not more than non-animated movies. And I don't give a shit about merchandise. It doesn't matter to me at all. I haven't read any comics recently but most people seem to think their about even in that area. Video games I have to give a clear edge to DC and those, although not too important, are more so than merchandise to me. Really, non-animated movies is the only area that matters to me in which Marvel is clearly dominating DC.I think you are placing too much emphasis on the value of non-animated movies as if they are >>>>>> than everything else. Maybe that's true to you but most certainly not me. And I don't really care what the general public's opinion is or the fact that non-animated movies are what get the most attention from them.
😬 Not what I said. Animated films matter, but more so to the people who are already comic book fans. You're talking content, I'm talking marketing + content.
Marvel is winning the war of public perception & has high story telling capabilities in cinematic movies and TV offerings. DC is currently winning TV, but if Daredevil does well (and separates itself from all of the other Marvel offerings which focus on Action and Comedy by being as dark as it seems it will be) I think the Defender's line up will be challenging that market for dominance.
Animated is a win for DC, comics are always going to be equal, and DC is winning in games but lets be honest that's almost solely attributed to Arkham games, and slightly to DCUO (which is better than Marvel Heroes IMO).
I'm not talking about myself (I prefer DC), but I'm standing back and looking at the landscape and Marvel is winning. There's really no room for discussion on that.
Originally posted by Blair WindMost people don't even know about the vast majority of the animated movies.
😬 Not what I said. Animated films matter, but more so to the people who are already comic book fans. You're talking content, I'm talking marketing + content.Marvel is winning the war of public perception & has high story telling capabilities in cinematic movies and TV offerings. DC is currently winning TV, but if Daredevil does well (and separates itself from all of the other Marvel offerings which focus on Action and Comedy by being as dark as it seems it will be) I think the Defender's line up will be challenging that market for dominance.
Animated is a win for DC, comics are always going to be equal, and DC is winning in games but lets be honest that's almost solely attributed to Arkham games, and slightly to DCUO (which is better than Marvel Heroes IMO).
I'm not talking about myself (I prefer DC), but I'm standing back and looking at the landscape and Marvel is winning. There's really no room for discussion on that.
Originally posted by MindsetDc fans are so upset public perception is so in marvels favor they will talk about the animated films the general public does not give a shit about. Being number two for so long makes their fans lash out.
Most people don't even know about the vast majority of the animated movies.
Originally posted by Khazra RebornI like what I like but love rubbing it in that marvel is number one.
Any real fan of anything, comics or otherwise won't give 1/10th of a shit about public perception of whatever they enjoy. If you lash out because of what the sheep think, then you're bonafied tool.
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