Legolas vs Captain America

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL @ Legolas "running circles" around Cap.

The man can almost keep up with a 1940's Plymouth and run around a 2-minute mile for 30mins at a time. "thirteen miles in thirty minutes" -Falcon

Legolas is more of a long endurance runner, as implied in TT.

I agree that Cap is a faster runner than Legolas. But I also think that Cap can't run full tilt if he's trying to block arrows. Legolas IMO can run faster shooting arrows than Cap can run while blocking them. The moment Cap tries to move fast enough to catch up to Legolas is the moment he gets careless and drops his guard.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I agree that Cap is a faster runner than Legolas. But I also think that Cap can't run full tilt if he's trying to block arrows. Legolas IMO can run faster shooting arrows than Cap can run while blocking them. The moment Cap tries to move fast enough to catch up to Legolas is the moment he gets careless and drops his guard.

Yeah, overall agreed. As I said in my opening post here. At fight starting at long distance, Legolas and his bow have the clear advantage.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Point me to where I said this? There are FIRED from a multitude of direction IS what I was saying. Not that they move and turn in mid-air. Though it wouldn't surprise me if he could. Point is, the agility and angles that he can fire them at, along with the speed he can makes them far harder to block than meh soldiers firing straight at him. I'm curious... didn't you find it odd that all the soldiers would fire straight at the shield. When he's running... you can't block your entire body... Key portions of it are exposed.... Yet you're telling me he can still block them all when somebody is ACTUALLY trying to hit him in places he can't block? Come on. Legolas isn't some putz of a soldier.. he'll see opening and exploit them or bait openings. he's THAT good.

If a batter can hit a curve ball, captain can block a curved arrow.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, overall agreed. As I said in my opening post here. At fight starting at long distance, Legolas and his bow have the clear advantage.

Yeah, I can understand if everyone else thinks Cap wins melee. Heck I'm not even sure who wins in melee.

But for others to give the shield bearer the advantage in a long range fight against the archer? To say that SHIELD wins over BOW and ARROWS at LONG RANGE???

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, why do you always try to one-up me on LoTR when I'm always correct in my claims. But here you go:

"Three days and nights pursuit. No food, no rest. No sign of our quarry, but what bare rock can tell! - Gimli (TT)

That's Gimli commenting how he, Legolas and Aragorn have been relentlessly pursuing the Uruks for three days, trying to save the hobbits. If that doesn't tell you that Legolas is a superb long endurance runner, then you're dense.

"There is no long distance running..." -KT 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL @ Legolas "running circles" around Cap.

The man can almost keep up with a 1940's Plymouth and run around a 2-minute mile for 30mins at a time. "thirteen miles in thirty minutes" -Falcon

Legolas is more of a long endurance runner, as implied in TT.

I guess I'll have to run circles around you here yet again.. THIS was your DIRECT quote. You were claiming reference were made to Legolas being a long distance runner and better in that regard. I stated CLEARLY and CORRECTLY... no such REFERENCE was made about LEGOLAS being a long distance runner or better over long distances. None at all. I never once claimed they didn't run long distance in TT.. not once did I claim that didn't happen. What I did claim and what is SPOT ON is that NO.. NOT ONE reference was made about Legolas being a long distance or marathon runner nor that this is what he's best at. Not a single reference. Showing them running over a long distance.. which as you'll recall SO was Aragorn.. SO was Gimli doesn't mean Legolas in a long distance runner... THEY ALL ran that distance.. so to even imply (which you did) that this is Legolas strength is entirely not factual at all. Then we'd also have to say Aragorn specializes in long distance running when no such reference was ever made.

This is DIRECTLY refuted by Legolas performing feats Cap could never do over short distances using his agility and speed. I reference the short distance movements fight scenes of legolas. Point is, he's good over ANY distance.. he's not better over long distance and no such reference was ever made. If so, quote the narration stating Legolas is better over long distances or that is what he specializes in.. If not, concede you misspoke

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, I can understand if everyone else thinks Cap wins melee. Heck I'm not even sure who wins in melee.

But for others to give the shield bearer the advantage in a long range fight against the archer? To say that SHIELD wins over BOW and ARROWS at LONG RANGE???

At long Range, Cap's best tactic would be to close the distance slowly while focusing on blocking or dodging arrows until Legolas runs out. How many does Legolas carry? A score/20?

Originally posted by Robtard
At long Range, Cap's best tactic would be to close the distance slowly while focusing on blocking or dodging arrows until Legolas runs out. How many does Legolas carry? A score/20?

20 I think. And it's definitely a possible tactic, provided Legolas plays dumb and just keeps shooting without taking stock of what his opponent is doing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I guess I'll have to run circles around you here yet again.. THIS was your DIRECT quote. You were claiming reference were made to Legolas being a long distance runner and better in that regard. I stated CLEARLY and CORRECTLY... no such REFERENCE was made about LEGOLAS being a long distance runner or better over long distances. None at all. I never once claimed they didn't run long distance in TT.. not once did I claim that didn't happen. What I did claim and what is SPOT ON is that NO.. NOT ONE reference was made about Legolas being a long distance or marathon runner nor that this is what he's best at. Not a single reference. Showing them running over a long distance.. which as you'll recall SO was Aragorn.. SO was Gimli doesn't mean Legolas in a long distance runner... THEY ALL ran that distance.. so to even imply (which you did) that this is Legolas strength is entirely not factual at all. Then we'd also have to say Aragorn specializes in long distance running when no such reference was ever made.

This is DIRECTLY refuted by Legolas performing feats Cap could never do over short distances using his agility and speed. I reference the short distance movements fight scenes of legolas. Point is, he's good over ANY distance.. he's not better over long distance and no such reference was ever made. If so, quote the narration stating Legolas is better over long distances or that is what he specializes in.. If not, concede you misspoke

Why do you do this to yourself? LoL! Anyhow. I said Legolas is "more of a long endurance runner", which is directly supported by Gimli's comment:

"Three days and nights pursuit. No food, no rest. No sign of our quarry, but what bare rock can tell! - Gimli (TT)

If you don't think being able to run for 3 days without rest (let alone no food) doesn't prove someone is great at long endurance running, then you are clearly a dunce.

You claimed: "There is no long distance running... just super fast and quick agile movement killing people" - KT

Which is clearly wrong as shown in the beginning of the TT and explained by Gimli.

YouTube video

What's show/stated in the film > what you claim

Edit: Legolas does some decent long distance running in Desolation of Smaug as well. 😂

A person with a indestructible shield who can use it as a projectile wins over a bow and arrow.

I love how people are acting like Captain is going to sit there and do nothing. The guy ran 30 miles in like 6 minutes without even trying.

He would close the distance so fast and take his head off with that shield.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
A person with a indestructible shield who can use it as a projectile wins over a bow and arrow.

So if you were fighting someone who is an expert with a bow and arrow, you would run up to him? Think before answering this question and picture yourself running, even with a shield in your hand. When I made this thread, that was the last thing I thought Cap supporters would say.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
A person with a indestructible shield who can use it as a projectile wins over a bow and arrow.

If it was Cap against a normal archer then you'd be correct. But your mistake here is assuming that it's only Cap who is highly skilled with his weapon... completely forgetting that Legolas is just as equally skilled with his own.

So what you have is a highly skilled shield bearer vs. a highly skilled archer. So if skill is more or less cancelled out (unless you can prove that Cap is hugely more skilled than Legolas at his weapon) then what you have is basically shield vs. bow and arrows. Guess which one was built for long distance warfare.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I love how people are acting like Captain is going to sit there and do nothing. The guy ran 30 miles in like 6 minutes without even trying.

He would close the distance so fast and take his head off with that shield.

I love how people are acting like Legolas is just going to stand there, finish his arrows dumbly aiming at where the shield is and allow Cap to close the distance.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I love how people are acting like Captain is going to sit there and do nothing. The guy ran 30 miles in like 6 minutes without even trying.

He would close the distance so fast and take his head off with that shield.

13 in 30, but noted he got a late start. That's about a 2min mile, or Cap can run at about 27-30mph.

Originally posted by FrothByte
20 I think. And it's definitely a possible tactic, provided Legolas plays dumb and just keeps shooting without taking stock of what his opponent is doing.

That's why Cap would have to keep closing the distance, even if slowly. If Cap just stood there and blocked arrow after arrow, Legolas would stop firing since he's no idiot.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you do this to yourself? LoL! Anyhow. I said Legolas is "more of a long endurance runner", which is directly supported by Gimli's comment:

"Three days and nights pursuit. No food, no rest. No sign of our quarry, but what bare rock can tell! - Gimli (TT)

If you don't think being able to run for 3 days without rest (let alone no food) doesn't prove someone is great at long endurance running, then you are clearly a dunce.

You claimed: "There is no long distance running... just super fast and quick agile movement killing people" - KT

Which is clearly wrong as shown in the beginning of the TT and explained by Gimli.

YouTube video

Edit: Legolas does some decent long distance running in Desolation of Smaug as well. 😂

God I love owning you... It's so damn easy that I've made you DIRECTLY lie in order for you to beat me bwahahha. I said there was no long distance running just killing people DIRECTLY after I reference in the Barrel riding scene.. the spider scene.. the laketown scene. I love how you need to lie to TRY and beat me but get utterly owned in the process. I was pointing out that in THOSE scenes there was NO distance running just short bursts of him killing people.
Here's my direct quote PROVING I was saying in THOSE scenes there is no long distance running just him killing people :

That wasn't what was implied AT ALL in the TT... The only reference made was that Gimli is better over short distances. Nothing more. When you see Legolas in the spider scene ... in the TT battle for Helm's deep scene... the barrel scene... There is no long distance running... just super fast and quick agile movement killing people

Quote me saying there is no long distance running in TT.

Another lie I need to blatantly expose you for. Let me ask you Robbie? Does it bother you that I now post in the forum and own you over and over? I mean you ran roughshot over people before, but now just continue to get owned. Now you're claiming I said running for 3 days and 3 nights isn't long distance marathon running. QUOTE ME SAYING THIS. I never made any such claim, not even close to that. It's just you lying again hoping you'll win, but yet again get owned.

NO that scene doesn't imply Legolas is better over long distance. QUOTE ANYBODY IN ANY OF THE MOVIES SAYING ANY SUCH THING ABOUT LEGOLAS. You won't find it, thus it wasn't implied at all. Showing Legolas running long distance doesn't mean that is what he specializes in. What kind of ass backwards logic is this. GIMLI and ARAGORN were BOTH shown running the same distance. So does that mean Aragorn now specializes in long distance running compared to short bursts? No, of course not. It simply means he can run long distances, just like Legolas and just like Gimli. To even imply Legolas is better over long distances than short totally and completely contradict the movie. We see Legolas DIRECTLY OWNING people in short distance combat and EASILY so. We have a myriad of scenes showing Legolas owning over short distances... you have one scene with him running a long ways with three other people who were able to run that same distance. Clearly, it was nothing special about Legolas doing it when Aragorn and Gimli also did it. Just because I can run 3 miles... doesn't mean I'm better at that than running the 100 yard dash. I just happen to be able to do both. Same thing here.. Just cause Legolas runs long distances doesn't mean he's better at that or that is what he specializes in.

Now quote the scene where it says Legolas is better over long distances than short distances or concede the point. It was NEVER IMPLIED AT ALL

What's show/stated in the film > what you claim

Not reading all that garbage, since this destroys your rants:

YouTube video

Legolas is a superb long endurance runner(3 days no rest), deal with it, little boy.

"There is no long distance running" - You 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Not reading all that garbage, since this destroys your rants:

YouTube video

Legolas is a superb long endurance runner(3 days no rest), deal with it, little boy.

"There is no long distance running" - You 😂

So you have the reading comprehension of a preschooler then. I love how people can see me owning you over and over again. Here's the direct quote so people can see you lying and owning you. NOTICE HOW ROBTARD purposely leaves important parts of my post out of his quote... Hmmm I wonder why... let's look at the FULL QUOTE

That wasn't what was implied AT ALL in the TT... The only reference made was that Gimli is better over short distances. Nothing more. When you see Legolas in the spider scene ... in the TT battle for Helm's deep scene... the barrel scene... There is no long distance running... just super fast and quick agile movement killing people

As we can all clearly see... I referenced scenes in which he displayed quick agile movements in short bursts. SHOWING in these scenes there is no long distance running. None. Just short bursts of speed agility and killing people. This directly refutes the claim that he's better over long distances. Damn Robbie got cause lying again and owned. He even had to take critical parts off of my posts to try and win. THAT is how desperate he's become. Ownage number 30 of the Tard.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you have the reading comprehension of a preschooler then. I love how people can see me owning you over and over again. Here's the direct quote so people can see you lying and owning you. NOTICE HOW ROBTARD purposely leaves important parts of my post out of his quote... Hmmm I wonder why... let's look at the FULL QUOTE

That wasn't what was implied AT ALL in the TT... The only reference made was that Gimli is better over short distances. Nothing more. When you see Legolas in the spider scene ... in the TT battle for Helm's deep scene... the barrel scene... There is no long distance running... just super fast and quick agile movement killing people

As we can all clearly see... I referenced scenes in which he displayed quick agile movements in short bursts. SHOWING in these scenes there is no long distance running. None. Just short bursts of speed agility and killing people. This directly refutes the claim that he's better over long distances. Damn Robbie got cause lying again and owned. He even had to take critical parts off of my posts to try and win. THAT is how desperate he's become. Ownage number 30 of the Tard.

Anyhow, since you won't watch the video as it destroys you, here is Gimli's quote again:

"Three days and nights pursuit. No food, no rest. No sign of our quarry, but what bare rock can tell!" - Gimli (TT)

Legolas is a superb long endurance runner(3 days no rest), deal with it, little boy.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's why Cap would have to keep closing the distance, even if slowly. If Cap just stood there and blocked arrow after arrow, Legolas would stop firing since he's no idiot.

At that speed he could speed blitz him and block the incoming arrows withing a second.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, you're so awful at this. You claim "here's the direct quote" and then you don't provide a quote. I laughed at you and stopped reading after that.

Anyhow, since you won't watch the video as it destroys you, here is Gimli's quote again:

"Three days and nights pursuit. No food, no rest. No sign of our quarry, but what bare rock can tell!" - Gimli (TT)

Legolas is a superb long endurance runner(3 days no rest), deal with it, little boy.

You TRULY are a moron.. I mean TRULY. The QUOTE IS RIGHT THERE moron. Directly after I said the word quote.. I copied and pasted my EXACT quote right there. Are you really this stupid or blind? For the 3rd time.. here's the direct quote again so people can see you outright lie and even go so far as miss quoting me in the context of what I was talking about to try and beat me. THIS is the level I've made you sink to when you can't even give the entire quote LOL. God damn it gets old owning you like this... Here it is again dummy lol

"That wasn't what was implied AT ALL in the TT... The only reference made was that Gimli is better over short distances. Nothing more. When you see Legolas in the spider scene ... in the TT battle for Helm's deep scene... the barrel scene... There is no long distance running... just super fast and quick agile movement killing people"

Now compare this to what Robbie quoted me as on page 10. This is what he said I said directly quoted from him

""There is no long distance running..." -KT laughing out loud"

See the lengths he'll go to lie BWAHAHHAHA

I didn't think I needed to bold it for a dummy like yourself. But I guess so. Then again I'm dealing with Robbie. here all can see you lied and I never said any such thing. Then they'll see you purposely leaving out vital parts of my post in order to try and change the context of what I said. As all can clearly see.. I NEVER NOT ONCE said Legolas never ran long distances in any movie nor in TT. I LISTED scenes like the Barrel Scene.. The spider scene.. the helm's deep scene... and SAID SEE there is no long distance running here just him killing people.

This is DIRECTLY disputing Tard's claims that Legolas is implied to be better of long distances. There was NEVER any such implication. not even close. Yes he can run long distances, but that isn't his specialty nor was it ever stated this is what he's best at. In fact, Gimli and Aragorn both made the marathon run... does that also mean they are best over long distances? Gimli even outright says he's better over short distances.. AS HE'S MAKING THE SAME LONG DISTANCE RUN. Proving beyond any doubt, that this also doesn't mean Legolas is better over long distances

GAME, SET, OWNAGE complete and Tard's lies and misquotes exposed. LMAO

P.S. How many people are laughing at you when I provide the quote in the post where you said I provided no quote LMAO