Originally posted by Nephthys
He can cheese it though with beast control.No, you kill it (and it's babies?).
How can a thing that kills Krayt Dragon's be only as deadly as an Ackley (which AotC Obi-Wan had trouble with btw)? There's literally a giant Krayt Dragon skeleton outside it's nest, come on. As I recall it's able to just bore through solid rock, so I doubt it's reliant on poison.
Vitiate's empire > Malak's. I'd back Angral over Bandon any day. He has actual feats and his explicitly superior to people with known abilities.
TBH, I'm considering the Hero getting through the whole list up to 'Thor. Being widely considered superior to Act I Barsen'thor and Satele and a bunch of other powerful Jedi should put her above those guys, if we're considering hype here.
Well, I'm just thinking about how it fights. If it's poisonous or that powerful, obviously she wasn't hit by it at all. If she wasn't hit by it, that's no different from Obi wan not being hit by the Acklay, considering they are the same size and shape. While yes shed have to hit it more to kill it, he had to survive without a lightsaber. Kinda think they balance out.
Perhaps. I don't particularly care about the Bandon fight tbh.
And I disagree, strongly.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah, Bastila and Malak confirmed the destruction of Datooine on his flagship, which was beforehand. The TCSWE says this:"Wynn and Yuthura attacked the Jedi [Revan], but both were defeated in combat."
―The Complete Star Wars EncyclopediaIt is possible, I guess, that Revan spared her, but he did seemingly fight them both at once, which is pretty cool if you ask me.
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Nah, they weren't Dark Jedi Masters - I just checked. They were Dark Jedi Apprentices like Bandon, just the strongest there was.Meh, I meant in the terms that Uthar outranks and is the strongest Sith on all of Korriban, which shows superiority to hundreds of Sith.
Fair enough.
Conceded.
Still disagree on the Bandon vs Uthar thing though.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Those refer to Wrath and Nox specifically, as not all Sith Warriors/Inquisitors know Vette and Khem Val as associates, obviously.I don't think anyone denies that the Wrath is Dooku level considering he disintegrated a massive door, wiped out a camp of 1,000 of the Republic's finest, and beat all those Jedi and Baras.
But the motion to suggest every ordinary Sith Warrior is impressive enough to go up against some of the greatest Sith Lords in history - Maul and Dooku - is just pure silly talk. Don't you think?
Do you see BioWare putting a DISCLAIMER that the information presented in the official links of Sith Warrior and Sith Inquisitor class is valid for the SWTOR PC only. All other Sith of same class relatively suck in comparison? 🙂
Aside from these official pages, BioWare released an Encyclopedia which provides great detail of internal mechanics of the Empire, its progress, and history of Sith in general.
It is clearly stated in the Enyclopedia that few individuals have the potential to become a Sith Lord among millions. These individuals represent the cream of the crop. The acolytes have to undergo harsh trails to prove to be worthy of earning the mantle of Sith in the first place, few succeed. Even fewer manage to progress to Lord rank holistically.
As for Maul and Dooku, we don't know how would they cope with the challenges of the reconstituted Sith Empire, should they be teleported back in time to that setting. They seem great because they are groomed to be Lords but they never had to cope with intense rivalry and conspiracy to bring them down on any specific day. Then they have ample screen time to promote them as being highly talented warriors of their era.
In contrast, Lords of the reconstituted Sith Empire get overshadowed due to budgetary constraints and lack of time to explore their stories. MMO are huge projects and it is not possible to explore every character depicted in them.
Who is to say that HoT didn't struggle to defeat Lord Sadic? It may have been a long and brutal confrontation that resulted in both combatants suffering injuries and vice versa. We have simply game mechanics to rely upon for judgement and they are unrealistic in their presentation of events.
This is just like Malak versus Revan on Star Forge in a game and in a novel. According to Mr. Drew, the novel would project the same battle as highly challenging for either combatants.
So far, people assume that Malak sucks because he lacks exposure in realistic mediums such as comics and films.
"To put it bluntly, Revan in the book will not be the uber-powered death machine you controlled at the end of the video game. You might have min-maxed your character to smack Darth Malak down in seconds without breaking a sweat, but in a book that battle would have been a brutal, hard fought affair spread over multiple pages. In a video game it’s fun to kill hundreds of Sith Masters, but in a book that would just be boring. It would suck out any drama or conflict or tension, and as an author I have no interest in writing that."
As for the Lord, an ordinary individual cannot become a Lord in the first place. They are all extraordinary. 🙂
This is my point. I am just being philosophical.
Originally posted by Selenial
He so mad. Liking the aptitude for research comment, since that's exactly why I was just flown to India by my boss 😆Legend be cray cray.
Even Neph's like "lol nah m8 pls"
You make debate personal here. Don't do this. Labeling people "brain damaged" for having a different view then yours is asinine. Such lack of intolerance have little room in practical life. You won't get far in your career with this kind of aptitude.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Those articles explain the [B]class, not precisely the PC (Playable Character) itself.Do you see BioWare putting a DISCLAIMER that the information presented in the official links of Sith Warrior and Sith Inquisitor class is valid for the SWTOR PC only. All other Sith of same class relatively suck in comparison? 🙂
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It is clearly stated in the Enyclopedia that few individuals have the potential to become a Sith Lord among millions. These individuals represent the cream of the crop. The acolytes have to undergo harsh trails to prove to be worthy of earning the mantle of Sith in the first place, few succeed. Even fewer manage to progress to Lord rank holistically.
As for Maul and Dooku, we don't know how would they cope with the challenges of the reconstituted Sith Empire, should they be teleported back in time to that setting. They seem great because they are groomed to be Lords but they never had to cope with intense rivalry and conspiracy to bring them down on any specific day. Then they have ample screen time to promote them as being highly talented warriors of their era.
They are both said to be among the most powerful Sith Lords in history - many times. 😬
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And you are the only intelligent being in this forum, right?You make debate personal here. Don't do this. Labeling people "brain damaged" for having a different view then yours is asinine. Such lack of intolerance have little room in practical life. You won't get far in your career with this kind of aptitude.
Nah, plenty others.
I don't deny your intelligence, apart from jokes. You're just insanely biased to the point of your arguments sounding like they come from a 12 year old. Your obsession with any characters from TOR is almost as bad as Ant's obsession with Revan.
Originally posted by Selenial
Well, I'm just thinking about how it fights. If it's poisonous or that powerful, obviously she wasn't hit by it at all. If she wasn't hit by it, that's no different from Obi wan not being hit by the Acklay, considering they are the same size and shape. While yes shed have to hit it more to kill it, he had to survive without a lightsaber. Kinda think they balance out.Perhaps. I don't particularly care about the Bandon fight tbh.
And I disagree, strongly.
But wouldn't you say it's still more dangerous and therefore harder to avoid and fight? Anything that can kill a Krayt Dragon must be an absolute beast, remember what they needed to kill one in Kotor? Plus you have to also contend with 20 of it's offspring, so I'd say it's incredibly impressive. There's more great feats, like beating Bengol Morr, Praven, that Sith who gets cyborged, one of the Children of the Emperor, Angral obvs, Possessed Kira, fighting that ******* Sith while dodging the death laser. Even on Tython they fight a monster strong enough to just rip huge boulders out of the ground.
So the Act I Hero is undoubtedly better than Bandon imho.
Act I 'Thor could ragdoll everyone on this list except herself. And beating Vivicar is a better feat than any of them have (again, barring herself). Then theres Satele and Braga and Kaeden and Jarro and others. All stated to be inferior to Act I HoT.
Originally posted by Selenial
Legend thinks there's millions of sith.Like what?
There are millions of Sith in Vitiate's Empire. This is stated a few times in the encyclopedia.
“You are stronger than any Jedi I have known” - Bengal Morr
“The Force is strong in you. Stronger than I've seen in decades.” Orgus Din.
“You are our greatest warrior… and our best hope." – Satale Shan.
"We've lost one of our noblest Masters, but in his place stands a Jedi without equal." - Satele Shan (Act 1 ending)
"But he also forged our greatest weapon against the darkness." - Satele Shan (Act 1 ending)
"I'm glad to finally meet you in person. They say you're the greatest Jedi the order has seen in generations." - Tol Braga
"Warren was the order's greatest soldier in his day--now that role falls to you." - Tol Braga
“You are the Jedi's finest.” – Lord Scourge.
Only one of Braga's quotes says in generations.
Satele repeatedly says you're the best Jedi alive, Braga says you're the best soldier in the the order, Morr says you're more powerful than any Jedi he's seen, Orgus says you're more powerful than anyone he's seen in decades while Satele is in the same room (the ****ing Jedi Council chambers) and then Scourge says you're the Jedi's finest.
How is any of that "in generations?"