The Emperor's Wrath vs Dooku

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Tyranus takes this.
-Better lightning than Baras
-Superior TK
-Superior saber technique.

There's not a single area Dooku cannot defeat the Wrath in.

No. The Wrath is superior to Dooku in TK. The guy disintegrated a massive door to dust.

And the Wrath is more impressive in lightsaber combat - slaughtering 1,000 of the Republic's finest.

In raw combat though I'd be inclined to put the Wrath beating Sel Makor above any of Dooku's accomplishments.

Also, I'd say Ekkage one-shotting a Sith Lord with lightning is as good a feat as any Dooku's FL has done. And Baras is stronger than her. Both fell to the Wrath.

It's not like Dooku can overpower the Wrath via lightning, if that is what we are discussing.
The Wrath survived a massive explosion and large rocks collapsing on him. And then this:

"Sith who train in the stalwart arts of the Juggernaut boast unrivaled stamina in battle. Through diligence and clarity, the Juggernaut shapes the Force to his will to become nearly invulnerable. Damage that would destroy others is shrugged off, and futility fills the Juggernaut's foes with doubt and despair. Protecting their allies and punishing their adversaries, they charge into the thick of any fray, and take the brunt of the assault and are even able to drain the energy of their enemies to further strengthen their resolve." ―Star Wars: The Old Republic

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No. The Wrath is superior to Dooku in TK. The guy disintegrated a massive door to dust.

And the Wrath is more impressive in lightsaber combat - slaughtering 1,000 of the Republic's finest.

A. Explosion doesn't happen from TK bro, it was assisted. Nor is that as impressive as Dooku crushing Ventress with a finger.

B. There were 1,000 stationed there. I doubt the entire staff engaged him and even if they did, that's not beyond Dooku if you include EU feats.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In raw combat though I'd be inclined to put the Wrath beating Sel Makor above any of Dooku's accomplishments.

Also, I'd say Ekkage one-shotting a Sith Lord with lightning is as good a feat as any Dooku's FL has done. And Baras is stronger than her. Both fell to the Wrath.

I'd disagree. Dooku has fried multiple Force sensitives with singular blasts of lightning. And even if we were to put their lightning on par, the Wrath was hard pressed to reflect Baras' lightning. Difference is if he tries that against Dooku he'll just Tutaminis it back. Also Dooku is WAY better with a blade than Baras or Ekkage.

It was assisted by a Jedi Knight who was defeated by a handful of commandos... it doesn't change the impressiveness. 😬

Dooku has nothing on that. ^

Nope. He was ordered by Darth Baras to eliminate everyone there - something confirmed by Captian Eligyn.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
[B]It was assisted by a Jedi Knight who was defeated by a handful of commandos... it doesn't change the impressiveness. 😬

Dooku has nothing on that. ^

That's not even as impressive as the Barsen'thor's feat let alone as impressive as Tyranus. Game animators not wanting to animate them blasting the door back does not equate reducing to dust.

Nope. He was ordered by Darth Baras to eliminate everyone there - something confirmed by Captian Eligyn.

You're missing my point. He did not engage 1,000 people at once.

Barsen'thor's feat is quite mediocre when you see it in video. The pictures going around about it is a false representation.
Dooku has no feats like that. 😬 Telekinetically dominating Ventress doesn't compare to the raw power represented there.

I accept your concession. And yeah, he marched through a command center and slaughtered them all. What's your point?

No it isn't, Ant. I already proved I'd actually undersold its size. And Stark, 'Thor is better than Dooku in TK so I have no clue what you're on about.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I'd disagree. Dooku has fried multiple Force sensitives with singular blasts of lightning. And even if we were to put their lightning on par, the Wrath was hard pressed to reflect Baras' lightning. Difference is if he tries that against Dooku he'll just Tutaminis it back. Also Dooku is WAY better with a blade than Baras or Ekkage.

Untrained force sensitives are hardly more resistant than normal people. IIRC they weren't even in armor, like the Sith Ekkage fried.

Dooku didn't tutaminis back his lightning when Yoda deflected it, he bounced it to the side.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it isn't, Ant. I already proved I'd actually undersold its size.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I saw the picture - then I saw the video. Based on my eyes, they aren't even close.

It's over 5 times as big as the fat build, which is easily 6 ft tall (as I recall it's actually around Qyzen's size, who's 2 meters). That's around 30 meters or more. Most houses are about 22 ft or something. I'd only ever estimated it as being as big as a house, when it's actually bigger.

It looks less impressive in video because of perspective and because you can't easily compare it to anything in motion.

Also this is pointless since the Barsen'thor tanked an explosion that disintegrated a MUCH bigger blast door while weakened. And she didn't need no help either. excellent

Yeah, I seen your argument. The picture I saw originally wasn't even comparable. Then again, our eyes show us different things.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Most houses are about 22 ft or something.

I actually just googled that.

Also, that pic is deceiving too. A large part of the door was pushed outwards - but still hanging out. I'll try to whip up a decent calculation.

Actually, re-watching it again, she didn't destroy any piece of it. It looks completely intact, just separated and bent from the middle down.

Compare that to the Wrath completely disintegrating that fused door. Oh wait, you can't. 😉

I know she didn't destroy any of it, I never claimed she did. It's pretty obvious:

She smashes through it.

It is much larger and thicker than the Wraths door and she was weakened and much more inexperienced (Taris vs uh, Belsavis?) and does it casually on her own.

I can compare her tanking a bigger blast door getting disintegrating.

I was under the impression she did. Separating a massive door and bending it back =/= crushing actual metal to dust.
Sure, it's impressive, but if it was as impressive as the Wrath's, the center pieces should have been disintegrated, not intact.

That's not telekinesis.

I dunno how you misinterpreted that so badly, lol.

Either way, both are better than Dooku. 👆

Pretty much is. A Force Barrier is just a telekinetic shield.