Black Adam Vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which isn't supported in any of the comics. There was zero indication Superman even knew of the asteroid then.
As well as we have a blatant panel stating when the kryptonite was piercing the atmosphere. Superman "feeling" its existence doesn't mean an active weakening effect is in play.

And then Cap stood over him and talked about how much he didn't want to fight.

I don't get how you think "blindsided" = ko'ing Cap with one shot. A more accurate comparison is if Cap kept hitting him after he cheapshotted Superman without let up. Which is what that implies.

Good job bringing up other examples though. You sure accurately judged the situation when you jumped to Superman's rescue.

He didn't. But as Loeb said he could feel kryptonite when the asteroid passed Neptune. You want to argue the writer, feel free to do so.

We also have Superman asking power girl about kryptonite radiation two issues ago just before Cap attacked him. Silly superman, asking about things which will not come to Earth for next two issues!

Cap hit him four times in that fight, just because he stopped to gloat doesn't hides the fact that he failed to ko superman when Superman was tired, drained by nightshade, weakened by kryptonite and where Cap had a distinct advantage due to magical nature.

Superman koed him without any of those advantages.

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
They started arm wrestling. 😂

Billy was just trying to fight, that's not an indication of not holding back

Though yeah, forgot about that one. Still, that's two out of a lot. In any case, Zop is still wrong.

Cap and Superman have five fights, Superman had been holding back in three of them. Superman 102, POS 46, S/B 4.

You can say Eclipso was holding back in Superman 216 too since he wanted Cap's body. The two times Superman didn't hold back, Action Comics Annual 4 or AOS 494, he either beat the shit out of Cap or killed him.

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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
How is this a thread?

Because WW fanboys/girls are stubborn and hate to admit she is out of her league here. That's why.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Oh Gawd, I withdraw the question. The fanboys come out at night. You've managed to make a dumb thread dumber.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't. But as Loeb said he could feel kryptonite when the asteroid passed Neptune. You want to argue the writer, feel free to do so.

We also have Superman asking power girl about kryptonite radiation two issues ago just before Cap attacked him. Silly superman, asking about things which will not come to Earth for next two issues!

Cap hit him four times in that fight, just because he stopped to gloat doesn't hides the fact that he failed to ko superman when Superman was tired, drained by nightshade, weakened by kryptonite and where Cap had a distinct advantage due to magical nature.

Superman koed him without any of those advantages.

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Which I already talked about. He felt it was coming. He was not actually shown to be weakened. The kryptonite piercing the atmosphere is blatantly stated to have happened in issue 6. And that's when he was shown to be weakening. If there was a panel of him being weakened before then, then you'd have posted it. Do you have that panel of him being weakened?

Also, in a direct relation to the asteroid, we have Superman outright stating he's never been exposed to this much for so long. The asteroid was not only bigger, but had he been feeling the effects since Neptune in a way that would weakened him, he would have been exposed for like 2 weeks by my estimate.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman%20Batman%20048-02.jpg

3 times by what was shown. And had he really not been holding back you'd figure some amped punches would factor into the equation.

lol at Nightshade draining him or "being tired" still lingering over though. You're just trying to add anything up to make Superman look better.

Because we assume Superman didn't let up. I don't get how this is a hard concept. Cap cheapshotted Superman and stopped to chat when he could have laid hell on him for like a long period of time. Do you not understand the difference here?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap was mad as hell at Superman. It's suffice to say he wasn't holding back.

Cap and Superman have five fights, Superman had been holding back in three of them. Superman 102, POS 46, S/B 4.

You can say Eclipso was holding back in Superman 216 too since he wanted Cap's body. The two times Superman didn't hold back, Action Comics Annual 4 or AOS 494, he either beat the shit out of Cap or killed him.

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How are you going to list 5 fights, and name 6?

102... you mean when Superman saw Billy as Cyborg and Billy saw Superman as Adam? Does that confrontation sound like "holding back" to you? Both were pissed off.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/4023512-superman+%23102+-+vs+superman+1.png

lol at Eclipso holding Superman back. But yes, Billy lost that one fight.

And lol at AOS. You're talking about visions of possibilities that Superman's life could have taken when he killed pretty much all the Earth heroes?
Why not just use Injustice as proof if you're using visions of possibilities as proof?

But you still fail to see the point because of Superman blinders.
You can't even try to have a conversation with you that involves Superman anymore. I'm not speaking about who won or who lost, or who did good here... or at least I wasn't until you had to save Superman from me saying a holding back Superman got his nose busted.
I'm just saying that largely Superman hasn't held back against either, which is Zop's point.

I don't even know what you're trying to do here besides the obvious. I'm sure Superman "being better than" Billy helps his case in this thread.

I guess "at the expense of Superman" only works if it's coming from you though, not that I was trying to do anything in Supe's expense, merely explanations, but

Originally posted by abhilegend
John oneshotted her along the rest of the league. The she woke up and was shown fighting him but he beat her off panel and came to attack Ganthet.

You know what's a punch catch?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you want to? Because I can post a lot of them about Marvels being equal to Superman. And Cap is the only one equal to Superman and the logical choice to take down Superman as per Batman. The term is weakened.

Or Superman saying Cap is every bit his equal.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/squeezing/ActionComics768b.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM3.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM4.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM5.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM6.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/AC831VSBLACKADAM7.jpg

That good for you?

Like Superman getting koed by a gas station?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here is one more beastly feat for Cap.

He smacks Dreadnaught with the powers of Superman, J'onn and Aquaman like a red headed step child untill his power was blocked.

So what you decide to do here is finish up a Shazam brothers vs Wonder Woman debate, then you think to yourself

"Hey, there's an innocuous post about Superman, I'm going to insert some unsupported context in there to try and make Superman look better that in no way will cause disagreements."

Between you and Galan here getting fumey over really nothing, this has been the biggest waste of my time in recent memory. I moved a whole bunch of trash yesterday too and cleaned a chandelier and this ranks higher. A ****ing chandelier. Do you know how stupid squirting a chandelier is on a ladder?

Anyway, let's agree Superman is the best and move on here. You get your last word in or whatever. This is better saved for another occasion. A more relevant occasion with actual... things being discussed. I'm not even sure what the end result would be here besides people agreeing that Superman is really strong and Captain Marvel is strong for fighting him.

the end result for me is is that galan is a fumey douche. 👆

anyway, maybe will post more ww stuff later--promise no superman or billy scans so abhi can move on in peace and you can continue to polish your...chandelier. 👆

WW being more skilled gets more hits in on BA than he gets on her, effectively cancelling out any physical advantage. The lasso option(after a good hit) just gives her the edge.

Adam wins

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Adam wins

BA absolutely punishes her. Again, how is this a thead?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
BA absolutely punishes her. Again, how is this a thead?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Adam wins

You guys missed this compelling argument.

Originally posted by h1a8
WW being more skilled gets more hits in on BA than he gets on her, effectively cancelling out any physical advantage. The lasso option(after a good hit) just gives her the edge.

Originally posted by h1a8
You guys missed this compelling argument.

Have you heard the analogy of putting lipstick on a pig?

That argument isn't compelling, it is silly. Black Adam wins.

I could put this in layman's terms: Superman can defeat Wonder Woman. Black Adam is a magic Superman. Main difference being he can shoot out lightning as opposed to shooting out heat or ice breath. But then..heat vision and ice breath are not the reasons Supes beats WW anyways.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Have you heard the analogy of putting lipstick on a pig?

It's a great saying. One I've used to get me through most of life

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I'm not saying it is. All I'm saying is that this:

Is a lie. And I specifically brought that example up because it's the only one I can recall where Superman was holding back against them.

Now it's something because Abhi mistook my bringing it up as a slight against Superman

No argument from me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No argument from me.

WTF? Let me dip....

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Originally posted by -Pr-
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I thought you were endorsing Branlor's Deliverence post.

Originally posted by Surtur
That argument isn't compelling, it is silly. Black Adam wins.

I could put this in layman's terms: Superman can defeat Wonder Woman. Black Adam is a magic Superman. Main difference being he can shoot out lightning as opposed to shooting out heat or ice breath. But then..heat vision and ice breath are not the reasons Supes beats WW anyways.

I'll prove that it is compelling. Answer this
By WW being vastly more skilled then would she would hit him more times than he hits her?

2nd
What is your argument if WW during the fight decides to lasso him after a stunning hit?

Originally posted by h1a8
You guys missed this compelling argument.