Originally posted by -Pr-
A lot of the mechanics/writing in the game is engineered to make you enjoy the Abby sections more than the Ellie ones. It's really sinister, in a way.
Yeah, playing with Abbys dog and then killing that dog as Ellie later, etc.
It was intentionally done imo. They really wanted people to like Abby.
Originally posted by -Pr-Exactly. I was also not fond of the fact that Druckmann stated before the release of the game, Ellie would be the only playable character. To me if felt that Abby might of had a little more play time as well. Naughty Dogg wanted us to sympathize with her so much but honestly I couldn't.
I got that feeling too.I get that they were trying to let her have this big redemption arc too. It just didn't work for me.
A better way to describe this is, Angry Joe's review of LOU2. It's comical and his skit of Druckmann as it pertains to Ellie and Abby I believe is 100 percent accurate.
From the way it plays out, almost wondering if this is a stealth "**** you" from overworked, disgruntled programmers.
They're the ones actually making the thing. If I got treated like crap, and my boss demanded a set of guidelines about sex/gender/sjw bullet points, you can bet I'd try and subtly troll the whole project.
I mean, a sudden sex scene after talking about murder? Really? No one in their right minds would think that's a good idea.
Originally posted by Smasandian
I'm not sure I would agree about Ellie's sections being less than Abby's...but you can't really argue about that, it's more of a preference than any sort of fact.
I realise this isn't a TLOU2 thread, so I'll keep it brief.
I don't agree. You can tell me you liked the Ellie sections more, and I won't argue. You can say they had more emotional resonance, and I won't argue. I do think it's clear, though, that Abby has the more transformative arc (by design). Abby does effect/affect the world at large around her more than Ellie does. The plot of the game spins out of something Abby does at the very start. In many ways, she's the main character, or at the very least, is meant to be.
Originally posted by cdtm
Starfighter Assault feels more like a movie throwdown.
Not sure I agree, but okay.
Originally posted by Trocity
Yeah, playing with Abbys dog and then killing that dog as Ellie later, etc.It was intentionally done imo. They really wanted people to like Abby.
Yeah, and it's not very subtle at all.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Exactly. I was also not fond of the fact that Druckmann stated before the release of the game, Ellie would be the only playable character. To me if felt that Abby might of had a little more play time as well. Naughty Dogg wanted us to sympathize with her so much but honestly I couldn't.A better way to describe this is, Angry Joe's review of LOU2. It's comical and his skit of Druckmann as it pertains to Ellie and Abby I believe is 100 percent accurate.
lol. Druckmann... I want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I do. It's okay to prefer something I don't like, etc. But he just... he rubs me the wrong way.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Yeah, and really poorly executed.
Yup.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Nah, that baby is all Druckmann's. This is what happens when he goes unsupervised and unquestioned.
I don't know why the sex scene is so ****ing bad though. Even with all the jokes about Abby's physique being what they are, they could have shown something far more watchable.
It's hilarious how Adam has better stats across the board over Axel in the remake. In the original Streets of Rage, Axel, Adam, and Blaze all excelled in one area over the others, with Adam having the best strength stats, Axel having better technique, and Blaze the best speed. In the remake, Adam has higher strength, AND higher technique, and similar speed. Pretty much beats Axel in every category.
I still love my "Grand Upper" though.
Originally posted by SmasandianI think I'm going to buy that. It looks like it'll bring back childhood memories from games of that era.
Just replayed Doom 2016...thought I replay Doom 3.Surprisingly holds up. The textures are muddy, which is expected from 2004..but the shadow and atmosphere are still good.
Yeah.... I played it when I was in my early 20's. Doom 3, Half-Life 2 and FEAR were my jam around that time.
You don't see a lot of triple AAA titles (I think....) that are like that anymore.
Doom 3 does have it's issues...mainly the weapons feel off but the complete total war on atmosphere is well appreciated.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I think I'm going to buy that. It looks like it'll bring back childhood memories from games of that era.
It was past my time. Doom 1-2, Duke Nukem 3d, Full Throttle, and Tie Fighter are my nostalgia trip.
Wing Commander 3 I got in college, so guess that doesn't count.
But if you like Doom, for the record the source code is legally free in Freedoom 1 and 2. Only trouble is, the sprites aren't part of the package, as those are copyrighted.
The caveat being mods like Brutal Doom take the sprites and retool them for heads exploding and arm damage and such, and end up replacing the Freedoom sprites, meaning there is no difference between Freedoom and Doom for those mods.
And yeah, I know Doom 1 and 2 are so cheap anyone would just buy it, I just like letting people know. 🙂