Star Trek Beyond

Started by Robtard83 pages

November 2015:

Originally posted by Robtard
They could use this alt timeline centered around the backdrop of a full-out Klingon/Federation war; that could definitely work. Or possibly even the Borg with great writing, bringing together the various races to fight a common enemy. I'm emailing Paramount today.

🙂

^ You are a visionary. Our minds only went there after the underwhelming Beyond came out.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ You are a visionary. Our minds only went there after the underwhelming Beyond came out.
So you are going to hate on the film like you did with Star Wars Force Awakens.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ You are a visionary. Our minds only went there after the underwhelming Beyond came out.

It was still better than Into Darkness, imo.

So wait I have a wtf here. Wtf was with the episode in DS9 where Chief O'Brien's daughter gets sucked into a vortex. So it turns out the vortex sent her back in time to when the planet was abandoned and thus she was alone. They bring her out of the vortex and she is 10 years older, having survived there for 10 years and turned almost feral.

So basically they get her back and they spend a short time trying to help her, they discover she needs better care. But they don't want to send her away to a hospital so they decide to...send her back into the vortex so she can be where she was "happy".

A place where she is utterly alone. How is this not insane? Yes everything does turn out for the best and they get the younger version back, but wtf? Wouldn't it of been better to send her to that hospital and see if she can be rehabilitated? They basically gave up on her quickly and were willing to send her back to where she'd be all alone forever.

Originally posted by Surtur
So wait I have a wtf here. Wtf was with the episode in DS9 where Chief O'Brien's daughter gets sucked into a vortex. So it turns out the vortex sent her back in time to when the planet was abandoned and thus she was alone. They bring her out of the vortex and she is 10 years older, having survived there for 10 years and turned almost feral.

So basically they get her back and they spend a short time trying to help her, they discover she needs better care. But they don't want to send her away to a hospital so they decide to...send her back into the vortex so she can be where she was "happy".

A place where she is utterly alone. How is this not insane? Yes everything does turn out for the best and they get the younger version back, but wtf? Wouldn't it of been better to send her to that hospital and see if she can be rehabilitated? They basically gave up on her quickly and were willing to send her back to where she'd be all alone forever.

Have you watched the episodes where its a continuation of the clasic Trek episode "Mirror, Mirror"?

Originally posted by Surtur
So wait I have a wtf here. Wtf was with the episode in DS9 where Chief O'Brien's daughter gets sucked into a vortex. So it turns out the vortex sent her back in time to when the planet was abandoned and thus she was alone. They bring her out of the vortex and she is 10 years older, having survived there for 10 years and turned almost feral.

So basically they get her back and they spend a short time trying to help her, they discover she needs better care. But they don't want to send her away to a hospital so they decide to...send her back into the vortex so she can be where she was "happy".

A place where she is utterly alone. How is this not insane? Yes everything does turn out for the best and they get the younger version back, but wtf? Wouldn't it of been better to send her to that hospital and see if she can be rehabilitated? They basically gave up on her quickly and were willing to send her back to where she'd be all alone forever.

They felt like she wouldn't be happy unless she was back in something she was familiar with. Remember at the start when she freaked out because she wasn't out in the open?

Either way, it's considered one of the worst eps of DS9, and for good reason. It's the regular "**** with O'Brien" episode (there's generally one a season), and the only redeeming part of it is that the censors didn't catch the word "bollocks" in it.

****ing Irish, amirite!?

IKR?

Originally posted by -Pr-
They felt like she wouldn't be happy unless she was back in something she was familiar with. Remember at the start when she freaked out because she wasn't out in the open?

Either way, it's considered one of the worst eps of DS9, and for good reason. It's the regular "**** with O'Brien" episode (there's generally one a season), and the only redeeming part of it is that the censors didn't catch the word "bollocks" in it.

Yeah she freaked out in the open and this was something that might of taken months or even years of therapy, but that is better than being sent back to live alone. She has no medical supplies, what if she were to ever need medical attention? She survived for 10 years, but who knows what will happen or if she'll get sick as she grows older.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah she freaked out in the open and this was something that might of taken months or even years of therapy, but that is better than being sent back to live alone. She has no medical supplies, what if she were to ever need medical attention? She survived for 10 years, but who knows what will happen or if she'll get sick as she grows older.

Of course, it's a hole in the plot, but then again, parents don't always think rationally. They didn't want to see her in some mental institution for the next decade either.

I've heard good things about this from pretty reliable sources... sounds like it's a shame that probably the better Star Trek film is not doing so well at the box office.

It is by far the worst of the three which is why it's not faring as well. I still want it to success ultimately for the franchise but Abrams magical touch is surely missing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Of course, it's a hole in the plot, but then again, parents don't always think rationally. They didn't want to see her in some mental institution for the next decade either.

True. I also checked out the episode where Quark goes to save his mother who has been captured, great episode. Also the episode where Nog has lost his leg and spends a lot of time in a holo-suite is one of the best episodes.

Originally posted by Surtur
True. I also checked out the episode where Quark goes to save his mother who has been captured, great episode. Also the episode where Nog has lost his leg and spends a lot of time in a holo-suite is one of the best episodes.

A lot of the Dominion stuff is very, very good TV. and DS9 came along at a time when long arcs were not that common on shows. It was one of those shows that really paved the way for stuff like GoT, for example.

http://www.geek.com/news/star-trek-beyond-was--so-why-is-no-one-seeing-it-1665249/

I agree this film was too Treky and that's why it isn't doing well. It's by far the worst of the three and because it came too close to the Trek spirit which the mainstream audience doesn't want. Abrams made this series relevant again. Let's hope they can course correct and get back on track provided this movie makes enough of a profit to continue on. I am hoping so that's for sure because the first two Treks were awesome. This one was decent but a far drop from the first two.

nice article.. this film could still make money....

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-beyond-box-office-success-failure/

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
nice article.. this film could still make money....

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-beyond-box-office-success-failure/

I am hoping it does as it hasn't been released in China yet. I want the fourth to happen but I believe they need to find someone with Abrams flair as the Treky way won't ever be a mega hit. Let the Trekkies have their discovery series.

Say what you want about those BS RT scores. The audience have spoken on this through their dollars, and they weren't impressed.

Doesn't matter if it outgrosses the last 2 worldwide, because the international market has massively grown since then.

Domestic figures tell us more for comparisons purposes. And this has failed.

Hypocrisy thy name is Darth Thor. The international market has grown this the landscape has changed. Pacific Rim tanked here and guess what it's going to get a sequel. So the criteria has changed and thus you have not. I told all you Trekkies making a more Trek like film with a big budget would be less than Abrams because the way of Trek never truly was a success to the extent they were aiming for. I am right on both accounts while D. Thor is as clueless as ever.