Starkiller vs. Darth Nyriss (sabers only)

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nexus setting doesn't augments speed, genius. Also, Dromund Kaas is not a nexus in its entirety. Your assertions are baseless.

Starkiller cannot stomp Nyriss in a lightsaber duel. I really doubt that anybody can.

A nexus of Dark Side energy of Kaas City tier is going to exponentially increase any Dark Sider's power, that power is going to increase how deep a reserve of Force energy they can augment their own speed with. Not your best argument.

Dromund Kaas the site of the Emperor's living for a thousand years and endless experiments is not an immensely powerful nexus? Holy shit I think LeGenD just lowballed Vitiate.

Yes plenty of people can, show me a single un-amped lightsaber feat from Nyriss.

That moment when AP argues the nexus card but her most prized arguments are with Exar ****ing Kun.

😂

I'm male but I know trolling is your lone defensive mechanism, moreover Exar Kun has far more non-nexus feats than nexus feats.

If you want to be constructive you could attempt in futility to prove she wasn't amped on Dromund Kaas.

Originally posted by AncientPower
]A nexus of Dark Side energy of Kaas City tier is going to exponentially increase any Dark Sider's power, that power is going to increase how deep a reserve of Force energy they can augment their own speed with. Not your best argument.

Dromund Kaas the site of the Emperor's living for a thousand years and endless experiments is not an immensely powerful nexus? Holy shit I think LeGenD just lowballed Vitiate.

Yes plenty of people can, show me a single un-amped lightsaber feat from Nyriss.

Also, a nexus setting can bolster stamina and facilitate superior manipulation of the Force but it doesn't influences speed. Still, this is irrelevant since Nyriss's confrontation with Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik didn't take place in a nexus setting.

Vitiate transformed some regions (e.g. Dark Temple) into a nexus of dark side energy and corrupted the environment of Dromund Kaas in its entirety. It is likely that Dromund Kaas became stronger in the dark side in its entirety due to Vitiate's actions but only those parts of it became a nexus of dark side energy where Vitiate performed his dark side experiments more frequently then his norm.

Nyriss have fought in other planets such as Drezzi and Melldia and became famous for her exploits in them. Her confrontations in these worlds are not documented but this doesn't means that she lacks as a combatant in a neutral setting.

Your assumptions are misplaced and represent cheap attempts to belittle Nyriss' showings.

Originally posted by AncientPower
They both had very similar circumstances to stalemate each other with as the novel makes abundantly clear. If Starkiller hadn't been on his tier or close to it, he'd have been stomped. Their Death Star battle was not one in which Vader held back and Starkiller was beating him on every level.

With order restored once again, I take my leave. I look forward to observing the Ancient/Legend slugfest from my titanium coated tower.

/smokebomb

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nexus setting doesn't augments speed, genius. Also, Dromund Kaas is not a nexus in its entirety. Your assertions are baseless.

Starkiller cannot stomp Nyriss in a lightsaber duel. I really doubt that anybody can.

Jesus christ.

I might just start profiling the stupid shit that he says, IE Kaas not being a Nexus, Nexus' not augmenting speed, and Nyriss being un-stompable in sabers.

Kit Fisto was far, far greater than she ever was and he got slapped down like a child.

Originally posted by Selenial
Jesus christ.

I might just start profiling the stupid shit that he says, IE Kaas not being a Nexus, Nexus' not augmenting speed, and Nyriss being un-stompable in sabers.

Kit Fisto was far, far greater than she ever was and he got slapped down like a child.

I know that you are butthurt about Nyriss' superiority over Meetra Surik but you need to get over it.

Fisto is a far far greater duelist then Nyriss now? Another unsubstantiated gem from you. 🙄

I'd say that Fisto isn't even on level of Meetra Surik, forget Darth Nyriss.

Are we talking about Galen Marek or his clone?

Actually, I guess it doesn't matter. Either way, I'd probably say them in a pretty even fight tbh.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Also, a nexus setting can bolster stamina and facilitate superior manipulation of the Force but it doesn't influences speed. Still, this is irrelevant since Nyriss's confrontation with Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik didn't take place in a nexus setting.

Force speed is a Force ability that involves manipulating the Force to make yourself faster. Therefore on an area where the Force is concentrated your ability to augment your speed via the Force will increase. Your assertion to the contrary is the only baseless argument being made here.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm with Selenial on this one, you need to explain your logic.

Force speed is a Force ability that involves manipulating the Force to make yourself faster. Therefore on an area where the Force is concentrated your ability to augment your speed via the Force will increase. Your assertion to the contrary is the only baseless argument being made here.

@LeGenD As you said, a nexus facilitates superior manipulation of the Force. Force users manipulate the Force to enhance their speed. Therefore a nexus directly influences speed as well.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You better profile your stupid shit and unsubstantiated theories, so that others may have an easy time at recalling your double-standards and lameness concerning some content of TOR era.

I know that you are butthurt about Nyriss' superiority over Meetra Surik but you need to get over it.

Fisto is a far far greater duelist then Nyriss now? Another unsubstantiated gem from you. 🙄

I'd say that Fisto isn't even on level of Meetra Surik, forget Darth Nyriss.

You're literally saying Nyriss is a better duelist than "[One of the greatest swordsman the order has ever produced]" from one passage in which she's in a fit of rage on a Nexus fighting extremely depleted opponents.

And I'm the one with unsubstantiated theories 😱 😱 😆 😆

Actually, I'm not sure what the problem is there, tbh.

Nice profile pic, Beni. 😉

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Even if my understanding of influence of nexus setting on a Force-user is limited, Kaas City isn't a nexus of dark side energy. Therefore, my stand on this matter is valid still.

As for the setting, I don't believe it was in Kaas City, but somewhere outside.

Regardless considering that Dromund Kaas is:

bristling with the energy of the dark side

--Dromund Kaas, Old Republic Holonet

"...an extremely dangerous place. And very, very strong with the dark side."

--Fate of the Jedi: Ascension

Dark-side energy, as Luke had warned, was extremely strong here, as strong in its own way as it had felt on Korriban. There it had been intense and almost arrogant, power-hungry. Here those dark energies felt more insidious, more purely evil for evil's sake than fuel for a lust for power. Despite the warmth, the moist air felt clammy, like wet skin slapping against his own. Nausea, both physical and spiritual, rippled through him.

--Fate of the Jedi: Ascension

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Nice profile pic, Beni. 😉

Originally posted by Selenial
You're literally saying Nyriss is a better duelist than "[One of the greatest swordsman the order has ever produced]" from one passage in which she's in a fit of rage on a Nexus fighting extremely depleted opponents.

And I'm the one with unsubstantiated theories 😱 😱 😆 😆

Darth Nyriss have one of the best showings in the aspects of lightsaber combat in the mythos, hype is not necessary to prove her mettle when actual feats can be considered.

Lord Scourge was also an expert swordsman of such a caliber that even his instructors became reluctant to challenge him in a duel at the time of his graduation, specialized in all forms of lightsaber combat. On top of this, he is recognized as Meetra Surik TIER in the context of holistic capabilities during the era of Revan. Even he failed out cope with Darth Nyriss in a confrontation, and he didn't had any disadvantage in the context of setting.

In short, Nyriss is legit and Fisto is plainly hyped.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kit Fisto could be among the most skilled lightsaber combatants of his era [in opinion of some of his peers] but he specialized in Form I which isn't great for lightsaber combat. Additional lightsaber combat forms have been developed for some reasons.

Kit Fisto overcame the boundaries of Form 1 lightsaber combat. His ridiculous speed was more than enough to make the disadvantages meaningless.

Darth Nyriss have one of the best showings in the aspects of lightsaber combat in the mythos, hype is not necessary to prove her mettle when actual feats can be considered.

Lord Scourge was also an expert swordsman of such a caliber that even his instructors became reluctant to challenge him in a duel at the time of his graduation, specialized in all forms of lightsaber combat. On top of this, he is recognized as Meetra Surik TIER in the context of holistic capabilities during the era of Revan. Even he failed out cope with Darth Nyriss in a confrontation, and he didn't had any disadvantage in the context of setting.

In short, Nyriss is legit and Fisto is plainly hyped.

Wow. Lord Scourge scared a few lords who sometimes aren't even lords. That's super impressive, much wow. He's not recognized as Surik tier actually, he thinks he might have a good fight with her. Massive difference.

If anything, Fisto is legit and Nyriss is overrated hype. Don't get me wrong, she's good, but come on now.

Nah, Scourge knew what he was talking about. He could sense her power - plus he had the ability to analyze opponents in battling and automatically know their strengths and weaknesses.

Plus, authorial intention.