Originally posted by FrothByte
Smash through ice? Sure. Destroy an entire landscape of ice with one hit? Hell no. None of the leviathans in the movie showed that kind of destructive power. The most they destroyed were buildings. Most of those buildings not even fully destroyed.
I don't see why not? It's not like he destroyed an area the size of New York or something.
Originally posted by Psychotron
I don't see why not? It's not like he destroyed an area the size of New York or something.
So do the leviathans have any feats showing them destroying an area as massive as what Thor did? Does Hulk?
Heck some of the buildings the leviathans smashed into weren't completely destroyed.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
The creature he one shotted ln his first movie was about the size of a leviathan. And the destruction he caused via charged hammer strike in jotunheim was miles wide.Spoiler:
and while the destruction of the city was a shared "feat" the initial impact was notAnd can I get a reply on my post pls?
Which creature are you talking about? I guess, I don't remember it that well anymore.
What initial impact are you referring to?
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Reading through this thread makes me facepalm and really annoyed at Age of Ultron.Spoiler:
Thor hardly had a role in it. There should have been an Epic 1 v 1 with Thor vs Vibranium Ultron, after showing all the other Avengers getting their butts kicked.
Yeah, but there wasn't. Instead he got overpowered by Ultron and had to be saved by Vision.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So do the leviathans have any feats showing them destroying an area as massive as what Thor did? Does Hulk?Heck some of the buildings the leviathans smashed into weren't completely destroyed.
Just the sheer size and weight of a Leviathan could **** up the ground.
Originally posted by Psychotron
[B]Which creature are you talking about? I guess, I don't remember it that well anymore.What initial impact are you referring to?
It's all here. The giant beast and the Jotunheim blast.
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the reactor was just there to keep the city from crumbling. The initial explosion from this charged hammer strike that destroyed several blocks can be attrubuted to him. The city falling down in pieces, however, is due to the vibranium reactor no longer keeping the city together.It can also be argued that vibranium allows his hammer strike impact to radiate in a wider fashion, like it did at the start of the movie. Still, the force of the blow is all his.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Which creature are you talking about? I guess, I don't remember it that well anymore.What initial impact are you referring to?
Yeah, but there wasn't. Instead he got overpowered by Ultron and had to be saved by Vision.
Just the sheer size and weight of a Leviathan could **** up the ground.
When Thor
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strikes the Vibranium core, the initial shockwave levels entire buildings and city blocks before it explodes. That right there is a way greater striking feat than anything even Hulk or Man of Steel have done.Surviving an explosion that size with only maybe a temporary knock out (But relatively unscathed) is by far the greatest durability feat in the Marvel Universe so far. If we don't count the BiFrost at least.
I don't think there's any denying that Hulk is the physically strongest of the Avengers but Thor's definitely the most powerful. At least before
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Vision gets OP with the mindstone.
Originally posted by PsychotronYeah, but there wasn't. Instead he got overpowered by Ultron and had to be saved by Vision.
Shut up!
And FYI
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none of the Avengers were a match for Ultron 1 v 1 at the end. Hulk only beat on him after Thor+Vision+IM combined did sobbed serious damage to him. Thor actually lasted the longest against him.And Vision with mind gem could be the most powerful Avenger atm. Certainly while wielding Mjolnir as well. Yet he still got chucked when he tried to jump Thor remember.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Shut up!And FYI
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none of the Avengers were a match for Ultron 1 v 1 at the end. Hulk only beat on him after Thor+Vision+IM combined did some serious damage to him. Thor actually lasted the longest against the final version of Ultron.And Vision with mind gem could be the most powerful Avenger atm. Certainly while wielding Mjolnir as well(which is how he saved Thor).. Yet he still got chucked when he tried to jump Thor remember.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Shut up!And FYI
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none of the Avengers were a match for Ultron 1 v 1 at the end. Hulk only beat on him after Thor+Vision+IM combined did sobbed serious damage to him. Thor actually lasted the longest against him.And Vision with mind gem could be the most powerful Avenger atm. Certainly while wielding Mjolnir as well. Yet he still got chucked when he tried to jump Thor remember.
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That's one of the dumb things in this movie, Ultron is apparently powerful enough to manhandle Thor, but gets taken out almost immediately.I don't know if Mjolnir does anything for him. I mean, he is a machine, I don't think it grants him Thor's powers. I will say that after all that build up having Vision lift the hammer in some crappy comedic scene and off-camera is retarded. Captain America should have lifted it in some epic scene where Ultron is dominatic the Avengers and save them.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When ThorSpoiler:
strikes the Vibranium core, the initial shockwave levels entire buildings and city blocks before it explodes. That right there is a way greater striking feat than anything even Hulk or Man of Steel have done.Surviving an explosion that size with only maybe a temporary knock out (But relatively unscathed) is by far the greatest durability feat in the Marvel Universe so far. If we don't count the BiFrost at least.
I don't think there's any denying that Hulk is the physically strongest of the Avengers but Thor's definitely the most powerful. At least before
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Vision gets OP with the mindstone.
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I'll have to rewatch that scene, though there's no telling if Thor did that alone or the core helped.Probably the best durability feat in Marvel, I won't argue that.
Originally posted by PsychotronSpoiler:
That's one of the dumb things in this movie, Ultron is apparently powerful enough to manhandle Thor, but gets taken out almost immediately.I don't know if Mjolnir does anything for him. I mean, he is a machine, I don't think it grants him Thor's powers. I will say that after all that build up having Vision lift the hammer in some crappy comedic scene and off-camera is retarded. Captain America should have lifted it in some epic scene where Ultron is dominatic the Avengers and save them.
Tbh I agree with almost everything you've said here. But I think
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Mjolnir would have added some wallop to Vision's punch. It is after all an indestructible weapon. But then Vision should also be indestructible I suppose.
^ It will be a good fight, but mainly because Thor can't Lightning attack IM without boosting him (apparently, though it's possible a full powered Lightning strike would be too much for IM to absorb).
However he's still got his strength and Mjolnir strikes to continuously bash through IM's armor. He's infinitely better at H2h. He can fly faster, he can block repulsor blasts with Mjolnir, he can unleash tornadoes.
So yeah Thor will win. But because of the "no lightning" rule, it will be a good fight.
Originally posted by PsychotronSpoiler:
That's one of the dumb things in this movie, Ultron is apparently powerful enough to manhandle Thor, but gets taken out almost immediately.I don't know if Mjolnir does anything for him. I mean, he is a machine, I don't think it grants him Thor's powers. I will say that after all that build up having Vision lift the hammer in some crappy comedic scene and off-camera is retarded. Captain America should have lifted it in some epic scene where Ultron is dominatic the Avengers and save them.
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I'll have to rewatch that scene, though there's no telling if Thor did that alone or the core helped.Probably the best durability feat in Marvel, I won't argue that.
Iron man was in that explosion too so it will be a durability feat for Tony too.
Originally posted by DrDeadpool
Iron man was in that explosion too so it will be a durability feat for Tony too.
Good point.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Tbh I agree with almost everything you've said here. But I thinkSpoiler:
Mjolnir would have added some wallop to Vision's punch. It is after all an indestructible weapon. But then Vision should also be indestructible I suppose.
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Well, that's left unclear on purpose, I think. I believe he lifted it on a technicality, not because he's worthy. He doesn't have most of the traits I'd expect from a character worthy of Mjolnir. It definitely added to his hit though, no arguing that.