Originally posted by carver9
We already been through this. Let's not compare physical damage. Ironman attacks did something during that scene.
LOL. Why won't we compare physical damage? In a PHYSICAL fight, you'd think that physical damage/output would be one of the best indicators of who had an advantage in a fight.
Originally posted by FrothByte
LOL. Why won't we compare physical damage? In a PHYSICAL fight, you'd think that physical damage/output would be one of the best indicators of who had an advantage in a fight.
Because doing so would make Thor look good and as a massive Hulk fanboy, carter must always downplay Thor at every turn.
Originally posted by FrothByte
LOL. Why won't we compare physical damage? In a PHYSICAL fight, you'd think that physical damage/output would be one of the best indicators of who had an advantage in a fight.
Good. Hulk is far above Thor since one punch busted up his nose whereas he did no damage to Hulk at all. Glad we got that out of the way.
Originally posted by carver9
Good. Hulk is far above Thor since one punch busted up his nose whereas he did no damage to Hulk at all. Glad we got that out of the way.
Busted up his nose? Exageration much?
Yeah he made Thor's nose bleed slightly. No one's denying that. And Thor definitely hurt Hulk with his Mjolnir uppercut.
To be honest I do believe Hulk hurt Thor more with his punch than Thor hurt Hulk with Mjolnir, but I also think that while Hulk was utilizing some of his strongest attacks against Thor, Thor was nowhere near using his strongest hits.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Busted up his nose? Exageration much?Yeah he made Thor's nose bleed slightly. No one's denying that. And Thor definitely hurt Hulk with his Mjolnir uppercut.
To be honest I do believe Hulk hurt Thor more with his punch than Thor hurt Hulk with Mjolnir, but I also think that while Hulk was utilizing some of his strongest attacks against Thor, Thor was nowhere near using his strongest hits.
Glad this is just assumptions with nothing to back it up.
Originally posted by carver9
We already been through this. Let's not compare physical damage. Ironman attacks did something during that scene.
All Iron Man's attacks did (at 400% boost mind you) was throw Thor around a bit and annoy him. At no time was it implied that Thor was hurt or even dazed by any of it. He shrugged off every attack as soon as they hit and he was causing physical damage to the armor with every hit and even started to crush it with his bare hands.
There is no proof on whether Thor was hurt or unhurt. But thing is, end of combat, he was no worse for wear from when he started while Tony showed clear damage.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Strong enough explosions cause tremors, so you'd be wrong. It's easy, his normal lightning attacks don't cause massive explosions. And as per Thor 1, his charged hammer strike caused a massive explosion. Proof. Now it is up to you to prove Iron man can absorb a massive explosion as he has never absorbed an explosion before, so he can't absorb a charged hanmer strike explosion. But, if that is how you wanna play it, let's say the Jontunhem blast was caused by massive kinetic force. 😈Funny thing is, if the sheer magnitude of the force of that blow was due to Thor's kinetic power, he would crumple Veronica like a tin can even without his lightning, so it looks like you kinda argued yourself into a corner here. 😱
Because (like I've repeated over and over), he got separated from his hammer early on and he was dazed and off balance the whole time as soon as he was ambushed? facepalm Fact is, there are many instances of him going exotic and you just choose to ignore them all right? Rewatch Thor 2. He was flying towards the ship when Kurse took him down as he was chasing after Malekith's ship to keep him from escaping, not attacking Kurse.
Most his charged hammer strikes caused massive aoe damage. Especially against vibranium. And lol at you using a few instances vs the many instances Thor has used his exotics. It looks like lowballing is all you have left as you have no argument beyond that.
You mean the drone that couldn't even avoid a few big rocks thrown at it? It's suddenly gonna start evading massive tornadoes now? Prove it. And Tony in the Hulkbuster armor is gonna have to try and enter the tornado if it wants to engage in melee vs Thor who's at the center of it.
You mean other than taking on a base full of SHIELD agents? Or avoiding Hulk's blows or easily sliding below a thrown fighter wing or deflecting energy blasts with a mallet or when he fought the Destroyer intelligently by turning its energy against it or when he used his flying hammer charge to one shot the giant monster thru its mouth? Or when he keeps outfighting his brother who was nearly keeping up with Cap's agility? But, by all means, let's lowball Thor's fighting skills. After all, that's all you got going for you.
Good thing it's an electrical discharge, not an explosion.
Uh, was there ever any doubt that Thor is strong enough to destroy the drone? It's survival depends on staying away from him and Tony keeping him busy. Unless you mean the Hulkbuster suit, in which case you're proven wrong by the movie. If Hulk couldn't do it, then Thor can't either.
You are aware that Thor can summon his powers without Mjolnir, right? Also, Thor wasn't ambushed, he was the one who tried to ambush Kurse.
Lightning wouldn't cause AoE, why didn't he use it against Kurse or Ultron?
Tornadoes tend to be slow and big, rocks thrown by a super strong rage monster, otoh, are not. And if he doesn't? Thor has to exist the tornado to engage Iron Man.
Featleass SHIELD jobbers, who cares? Avoiding a giant brute's attacks isn't all the impressive, it's not like he danced around him like Spider-man would. The Destroyer fight was the one time he fought smart, I'll give you that. Lol, outfighting Loki, the twink wizard, is a feat now? LEL. I got another thing going for me, Iron Man's superior performance against the Hulk, and I got another too, the fact that Iron Man can negate one of Thor's exotic powers his lightning absorbtion.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Of course he performed better thanSpoiler:
Thor did. He was out in the open, flying around, dropping Hulk down a Skyscraper. Blasting the crud out of him. All things Thor is capable of but to a better degree. Did Thor Lightning strike Hulk even once? Because he did against IM. And he hurricaned the Destroyer.
Thor didn't have to save civies tho.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Good thing it's an electrical discharge, not an explosion.Uh, was there ever any doubt that Thor is strong enough to destroy the drone? It's survival depends on staying away from him and Tony keeping him busy. Unless you mean the Hulkbuster suit, in which case you're proven wrong by the movie. If Hulk couldn't do it, then Thor can't either.
You are aware that Thor can summon his powers without Mjolnir, right? Also, Thor wasn't ambushed, he was the one who tried to ambush Kurse.
Lightning wouldn't cause AoE, why didn't he use it against Kurse or Ultron?
Tornadoes tend to be slow and big, rocks thrown by a super strong rage monster, otoh, are not. And if he doesn't? Thor has to exist the tornado to engage Iron Man.
Featleass SHIELD jobbers, who cares? Avoiding a giant brute's attacks isn't all the impressive, it's not like he danced around him like Spider-man would. The Destroyer fight was the one time he fought smart, I'll give you that. Lol, outfighting Loki, the twink wizard, is a feat now? LEL. I got another thing going for me, Iron Man's superior performance against the Hulk, and I got another too, the fact that Iron Man can negate one of Thor's exotic powers his lightning absorbtion.
Yeah, you understand that an explosion is just another form of discharge right? And yet you keep clinging to the semanticaslike it has any meaning. 😆 prove that Tony can absorb an explosive discharge then?
But kinetic force able to create a shockwave for miles is > than anything Hulk has done. Thus, using your logic, Thor one shots Hulkbuster with a hammer strike. 💃
And he can destroy the drone with tornadoes, hammer throws or lightning. So at this point you're just going "lalalala I'm not listening. Lol."
"Feats" for drone dodging attacks?
You ENTIRE argument is to use his lowest showings with ambiguous/extenuating circumstances (had no hammer, had no skies, near squishy humans, near a key they needed to protect) while totally ignoring the instances where he DID show versatility (Destroyer, Malekith, Jotunheim and the Avenger NY fight) to prove he is simply a brawler. Guess what? All I need is to prove that he can fight with versatility once to prove you wrong. Which I did.
FYI, he has never demonstrated lightning without Mjolnir before Avengers 2 and we don't even know the reason why he doesn't do this. So you using it as some sort of argument for him being a brawler is just hilarious. You're literally making shit up as you go.
If Thor doesn't exit the tornado, he can still blow up the drone with lightning or a flying hammer charge like he did with the Destroyer. Then he can deal with Hulkbuster.
Practicing your lowball skills, aren't we? 🙄
Best trained agency in the world. Featless or not, their implied skills are set at the minimum it would take to be a SHIELD field agent. Funny that you call Hulk a giant brute cuz Tony was unable to avoid any of his attacks and was getting outfought by Hulk. 😆. Which means Tony in the Hulkbuster armor's fighting skills is so much less than Thor (as Thor was outfighting Hulk skillwise) it isn't even funny. Here's some logic for you:
Thor > Hulk > Hulkbuster in fighting ability. Wheee! Yay for giant brutes.
Lowballing Loki now? Haha. Did you even watch the Avengers or Thor 2??? Loki kept up with Cap's speed. Caught an arrow midflight without even looking and took apart multiple Dark Elves in melee combat easily just using his dagger and his skill. You suck at this. Haha.
Nice job trying to compare an inconclusive fight that got broken up midway where Thor was unable to use any of his versatility due to the space constraints. Is this all you are capable of now? Is this the limit of your argument? Cuz at this point you're just reapeating it ad nauseum even tho it has been rebuked many times.
Keep trying tho.
Thor wins. 7/10.
Originally posted by NibedicusThis. Thor Takes it after a good fight.
Thor > Hulk > Hulkbuster in fighting ability. Wheee! Yay for giant brutes.
Originally posted by Angelalex242And even his Thorbuster armor, made with Asgardian tech, got beaten by Thor. Good fight though.
Hulkbuster isn't designed to combat Thor.Thor wins.
(There's a reason Stark later makes a Thorbuster suit in comics. Stark is basically about having the right tool for the right job. Hulkbuster is not the right tool to fight Thor.)