How Powerful Is Ahsoka Now?

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|King Joker| Your Excellency

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
She can be comparable to Ventress in the Force while still being able to challenge Vader with superior speed. 😬

I mean literally everyone outclasses Grievous in the Force, but I doubt you'll say he's not a challenge for any of them.

That's ridiculous. The difference in Force power between Vader and Ventress is enormous, enough to oneshot, so Ahsoka's superior speed alone wouldn't make up for such a disparity.

Depending on the continuity he can dodge TK, and is extremely durable enough to tank TK attacks. It depends on how powerful the person he's facing is, but usually they can't really keep dishing out TK attacks.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Uh, yeah, if Ventress stood still while Vader was trying to TK here.

And that couldn't aid Ahsoka why? Filoni said she could compete because of familiarity, but comparable power or skill.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Kenobi level 😎

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by |King Joker|
To be honest, I think Ahsoka is far more powerful than Ventress during Rebels.
Darth Abonis Senior Member

By the episode Future of the Force, she is above both Inquisitors

Zenwolf Senior Member

Is that really a shocker though? The Inquisitors didn't show much beforehand, their greatest feat is holding the Phantom together, their other feats are...kinda meh except utilizing saber throw.

|King Joker| Your Excellency

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Uh, yeah, if Ventress stood still while Vader was trying to TK here.
If she attempted to close the distance he's still fast and powerful enough to grip her with TK. And if she could close the distance, we've seen Dooku capitalize heavily on his much greater Force abilities.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And that couldn't aid Ahsoka why? Filoni said she could compete because of familiarity, but comparable power or skill.
I don't even know what this sentence is addressing or what you mean by it.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor
Originally posted by Nephthys
Kurk Restricted

It's hard seeing Snips grow up. It seems that just yesterday she was the inexperienced, foolish, clumsy little Togruta from season 1.

And for that reason it's difficult for me to speculate where she could end up.

I'd say at this point she's at least at Aaayla Secura level for sure.

I think at her peak she could end up surpassing Shaak Ti in terms of combat abilities

I don't see her surpassing Obi Wan; that's just weird to think about

|King Joker| Your Excellency

TCW Ahsoka is arguably Aayla tier, tbh.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by |King Joker|
If she attempted to close the distance he's still fast and powerful enough to grip her with TK. And if she could close the distance, we've seen Dooku capitalize heavily on his much greater Force abilities.

And if Anakin, or Vader for that matter, fought like Dooku, you'd have a point. You're also completely ignoring that you don't even know how this fight ends, which will probably be with Ahsoka being either a smear on the pavement or leaving. It's not like she's defeating Vader.

I don't even know what this sentence is addressing or what you mean by it.

Your entire stance is, "She won't be a pushover so she's gots to be awesomesauce," which is pretty dumb, especially since the reasoning behind her not being a pushover is her intimate relationship with Anakin.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor

Yeah, Ahsoka surpassing Kenobi is a pretty silly notion, ngl.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Lets not pretend that Vader hasn't been challenged by plenty of sub-Ventress Jedi, guys. He doesn't just insta-Force pwn them and I'd be surprised if he actually tried that on Ahsoka and she managed to counter it. If she does then she's got game but other than that come on now.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

And let's also not pretend that Legends Vader has anything to do with Canon Vader. Vader hasn't even gone up against "plenty of sub-Ventress Jedi," in person.

carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES

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Kurk Restricted

Originally posted by |King Joker|
TCW Ahsoka is arguably Aayla tier, tbh.

Yeah season 5 Ahsoka is comparable to Aayla. She's probably at least on Adi Gallia's level then

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I'll be surprised if she's not above Ventress tbh

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And let's also not pretend that Legends Vader has anything to do with Canon Vader. Vader hasn't even gone up against "plenty of sub-Ventress Jedi," in person.

He went up against Kanan and he didn't open with a ragdoll, neck-snap. Not to mention Luke. Since those are his only fights now I guess, those are his tactics.

If you insist on the canon distinction then we're dealing with TCW-Rebels fights where they clearly don't give a shit about power-levels compared to story. Vader won't insta-pwn Ahsoka with the Force, obviously, but that doesn't mean he can't shove her around with it at will.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Originally posted by Nephthys
[B]He went up against Kanan and he didn't open with a ragdoll, neck-snap. Not to mention Luke. Since those are his only fights now I guess, those are his tactics.

You just gave two examples of people he wasn't trying to kill, completely ignoring that Luke is more powerful than Ventress as well, where as Vader is trying to us Ahsoka to find Obi-Wan, then kill her for psychopathic reasons.

If you insist on the canon distinction then we're dealing with TCW-Rebels fights where they clearly don't give a shit about power-levels compared to story.

😐

TCW and Rebels are what established power-levels to begin with for most of the people involved...


Vader won't insta-pwn Ahsoka with the Force, obviously, but that doesn't mean he can't shove her around with it at will.

Well duh. That has nothing to do with Joker's point though, so it's not relevant.

|King Joker| Your Excellency

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And if Anakin, or Vader for that matter, fought like Dooku, you'd have a point. You're also completely ignoring that you don't even know how this fight ends, which will probably be with Ahsoka being either a smear on the pavement or leaving. It's not like she's defeating Vader.
Is superior speed really enough to prevent Vader from using his monstrous Force abilities, especially if he's fighting someone far lesser in the Force? I don't think so, personally. Which is why I think Ahsoka must be far more powerful than someone like Ventress because of Ventress' lackluster performances against more powerful opponents (i.e. Dooku). That basically sums up my viewpoint.

Why does the end matter? It's what happens during that matters. If she even manages to take one of Vader's TK hits, that's hugely impressive on her part.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Your entire stance is, "She won't be a pushover so she's gots to be awesomesauce," which is pretty dumb, especially since the reasoning behind her not being a pushover is her intimate relationship with Anakin.
My reasoning why Ahsoka is going to be awesomesauce is very complex, but the major reason why I find it impressive that she will challenge him is because of his Force abilities, given how destructive they are. The fact she's challenging a dude like him speaks to how powerful she herself has become, and why she should be above many others in regards to Force abilities. Her "familiarity" with Vader wouldn't factor in if he's using the Force against her, it would mainly manifest itself in a duel, I'd imagine, as retarded as the whole "Ahsoka's familiar with the fighting style of a dude 15 years older and more experienced, who's developed his fighting style and fights with completely different tactics" is. 🙂