How Powerful Is Ahsoka Now?

Started by FreshestSlice36 pages

Nah, Force and Destiny seems pretty canon, and it says the Inquisitors answer to Sidious. We didn't see Sidious in ANH at all, but I'm guessing he was still in charge of the Empire.
"Beyond his formidable military, the Emperor maintains a cadre of diverse and elite agents who answer to him and him alone. Little is known about these shadowy and mysterious individuals. Some are called Inquisitors, while others go by different titles, or by no moniker at all. One, the most feared of all, is a Dark Lord of the Sith. However, all are extensions of Emperor Palpatine's power and authority. "

It even says Vader doesn't even know how many Inquisitor's there are.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except Inquisitors are not Sith. They are given their rankings by Palpatine/Vader. So its not completely unreasonable to think they put the smartest most tactical Inq in charge.

Heck the GI would answer to Tarkin. Doesn't mean Tarkin could take out GI in a fight.

Well that's hardly an accurate comparison, Tarkin is a military leader, the Inquistors are Force sensitives trained in the ways of the dark side, it requires a completely different skill set. The Inquisitors being very hands on, and specialising in defeating Jedi in combat.

They may not be Sith Lords, but the fact remains they have been trained in the ways of the Force by Sith, I see little reason why that would give cause for Vader and Palpatine to deviate from Sith teachings, when they believe those teachings to be "correct" when it comes to the Force, and the dark side.

The fact that in Aftermath with have non-Force sensitive politcal advisers espousing Sith philosophy leads be to believe it was the kind of doctrine they wanted the Empire to follow as a whole.

Still is possible GI is the most powerful. Perhaps even Probable. But it's not confirmed as of yet.

Anyway if he was the most powerful than it was clearly a one off Zone moment for Kanan to defeat him.

True, and most probably. However I really doubt even Kanan in the zone could defeat Ahsoka, let alone with speed, he's clearly not on her level.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah, Force and Destiny seems pretty canon, and it says the Inquisitors answer to Sidious. We didn't see Sidious in ANH at all, but I'm guessing he was still in charge of the Empire.
"Beyond his formidable military, the Emperor maintains a cadre of diverse and elite agents who answer to him and him alone. Little is known about these shadowy and mysterious individuals. Some are called Inquisitors, while others go by different titles, or by no moniker at all. One, the most feared of all, is a Dark Lord of the Sith. However, all are extensions of Emperor Palpatine's power and authority. "

It even says Vader doesn't even know how many Inquisitor's there are.

Which is a pretty blatant contradiction with what see in the show. It’s not Palpatine that contacts the Inquisitors it’s Vader.

Anyway, I’m still far from convinced that Force and Destiny is canon.

I imagine they ultimately answer to Palpatine, let's be honest everyone does, but that doesn't mean they can't take orders primarily from Vader.

Okay. How about the part in Everything you need to Know where when asking if the Inquisitor is a Sith, it says no because Sidious can only have one apprentice, as opposed to "No, there can only be two a Sith,"? Vader may lead them, but like everything else in the Empire, Sidious still reigns supreme.

Snoke >

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Did he? Guess I assume the GI was the strongest, but I guess that is not necessarily the case.

Seems pretty clear the Inquisitors are not ranked according to martial prowess. Fifth Brother seems to outrank Seventh Sister, and yet he could only ever last a second before getting KO'ed by Ashoka.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Seems pretty clear the Inquisitors are not ranked according to martial prowess. Fifth Brother seems to outrank Seventh Sister, and yet he could only ever last a second before getting KO'ed by Ashoka.
That is assuming that the numbers refer to rank (it could refer to the point at which they joined), the Fifth Brother also appears to be less intelligent than the Seventh Sister so I can't fathom a reason why he'd be ranked above him.

I mean the fact that he is literally worse at his job (defeating & capturing Jedi) than the 7th Sister is pretty clear.

EDIT: Her voice actor also says "I may be number seven, but I'm pretty much number one." Seems to me she's of higher rank.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Okay. How about the part in Everything you need to Know where when asking if the Inquisitor is a Sith, it says no because Sidious can only have one apprentice, as opposed to "No, there can only be two a Sith,"? Vader may lead them, but like everything else in the Empire, Sidious still reigns supreme.

Of course he does. Vader even seems to dispatch the Inquisitors at the behest of Palpatine.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
A fair point, but this is assuming that the numbers refer to rank (it could refer to the point at which they joined), the Fifth Brother also appears to be less intelligent than the Seventh Sister so I can't fathom a reason why she'd be ranked above him.

Well he seemed to be sort of in the lead in the most recent episode. At one point asking 7sis if she was questioning him in a rather threatening voice.

Originally posted by ares834
Of course he does. Vader even seems to dispatch the Inquisitors at the behest of Palpatine.

Well he seemed to be sort of in the lead in the most recent episode. At one point asking 7sis if she was questioning him in a rather threatening voice.

To which she replies "only when you're wrong" and then laugh at him when they find a comlink instead of Ezra/Baby.

Also he's a moron so it makes him even less capable to lead, then factoring he's piss poor at pretty much everything else whereas the 7th is much better. I don't like that, but it is what it is.

Oh she is certainly better. Just seems he was in the lead, at least in that particular episode.

Originally posted by ares834
Of course he does. Vader even seems to dispatch the Inquisitors at the behest of Palpatine.

Exactly, that's the point I'm, and a few others, are trying to make. Ventress had to die for the same reason Starkiller had to "die." They didn't owe loyalty to Palpatine. The GI can still be as powerful as Ventress and live because he does. Or, well, did.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That is assuming that the numbers refer to rank (it could refer to the point at which they joined), the Fifth Brother also appears to be less intelligent than the Seventh Sister so I can't fathom a reason why he'd be ranked above him.

I mean the fact that he is literally worse at his job (defeating & capturing Jedi) than the 7th Sister is pretty clear.

EDIT: Her voice actor also says "I may be number seven, but I'm pretty much number one." Seems to me she's of higher rank.

"You question me seventh sister?"

Also it seems as though Fifth Brother is better than Seventh Sister at sensing shit, which is why he's ranked higher. Filoni also suggests that the Inquisitors/ force sensitive kids are being taken in order to enhance Palpatines' abilities of foresight. So its possible that Fifth Brother is better at seeing the future or sensing the location of force sensitives.

Nah, F&D seems pretty not-canon. Includes Revan, Vitiate, other non canon characters and EU material, even if it also includes canon stuff. Not to mention the fact that Filoni says there are very few Inquisitors (implied 10), so Vader not knowing of them all given the context would be a tad retarded.

Uh, not really. Vader doesn't have to meet everyone personally or know that fact, and all noncanon material is clearly labeled noncanon. This wasn't. Have you actually read it?

Originally posted by Lord Stark
"You question me seventh sister?"

Also it seems as though Fifth Brother is better than Seventh Sister at sensing shit, which is why he's ranked higher. Filoni also suggests that the Inquisitors/ force sensitive kids are being taken in order to enhance Palpatines' abilities of foresight. So its possible that Fifth Brother is better at seeing the future or sensing the location of force sensitives.

That's literally retarded if all it takes to outrank a clear superior Inquisitor is having better sense abilities.

We've got no idea how the Inquisitors are ranked yet. But if 5th Brother was in charge over 7th Sister, then it seems less and less likely it's only related to whose more powerful in the Force and superior with a Lightsaber.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
"You question me seventh sister?"

Also it seems as though Fifth Brother is better than Seventh Sister at sensing shit, which is why he's ranked higher. Filoni also suggests that the Inquisitors/ force sensitive kids are being taken in order to enhance Palpatines' abilities of foresight. So its possible that Fifth Brother is better at seeing the future or sensing the location of force sensitives.

Perhaps, but I agree with Wolf that that's pretty lame grounds for being ranked above.

However it would seem he has superior senses, hence his anger at being questioned.

As far as him calling her Seventh Sister, that is her name, and she responds by calling him "Fifth Brother" in the same tone, so hardly indicative of much.

I still feel that in a dark side organisation fashioned by Sith, it makes little sense for underlings to be capable of defeating their superiors.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
We've got no idea how the Inquisitors are ranked yet. But if 5th Brother was in charge over 7th Sister, then it seems less and less likely it's only related to whose more powerful in the Force and superior with a Lightsaber.

Well the Sister seems smarter while the Brother seems to be a complete moron soo....yeah...

Originally posted by Beniboybling
[B]Perhaps, but I agree with Wolf that that's pretty lame grounds for being ranked above.

However it would seem he has superior senses, hence his anger at being questioned.

It sounded frankly to be like this:

"You would question me little sister?"
"Only when you're wrong big brother."


As far as him calling her Seventh Sister, that is her name, and she responds by calling him "Fifth Brother" in the same tone, so hardly indicative of much.

Yeah, it is. He talks down to her. Not to mention Fifth Brother was specifically dispatched in Lord Vader's place.


I still feel that in a dark side organisation fashioned by Sith, it makes little sense for underlings to be capable of defeating their superiors.

There were plenty of Sith in SWTOR that were not on the Dark Council who were capable of defeating their superiors. Namely Malgus.

Also it may be a dark side organization fashioned by the Sith, but the are explicitly not Sith. In the Sith Order, apprentices are taught and encouraged to seek power in order to overthrow their masters. Inquisitors that seek power in that regard are likely to find themselves summarily excecuted.

Remember any Inquisitor who gains too much power would likely be seen by Sidious as a threat, similar to how Ventress became a threat. So to sum up, not every Inquisitor is gonna try to power up, as powering up too much paints a giant target on their back.