Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You just gave two examples of people he wasn't trying to kill, completely ignoring that Luke is more powerful than Ventress as well, where as Vader is trying to us Ahsoka to find Obi-Wan, then kill her for psychopathic reasons.
IDGAF, they're his only duels now. They're the only means we have to see how Vader fights. Well and Obi-Wan. How did he fight one again? Did he open with the Force or-or did he do the other thing?
Also Ventress >>> ESB Luke.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
😐TCW and Rebels are what established power-levels to begin with for most of the people involved...
They established that they're incredibly inconsistent, sure.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Well duh. That has nothing to do with Joker's point though, so it's not relevant.
Jokers whole point is that Vader's TK is far greater than Ventress' and that he'd stomp her before she engaged in sabers, so for Ahsoka to be capable of fighting Vader that means she's way more powerful than Ventress. Which is dumb. Cuz obviously they're just gonna fight without Vader trying to TK her directly.
Originally posted by Nephthys
IDGAF, they're his only duels now.
They're the only means we have to see how Vader fights. Well and Obi-Wan. How did he fight one again? Did he open with the Force or-or did he do the other thing?
Also Ventress >>> ESB Luke.
They established that they're incredibly inconsistent, sure.
Jokers whole point is that Vader's TK is far greater than Ventress' and that he'd stomp her before she engaged in sabers, so for Ahsoka to be capable of fighting Vader that means she's way more powerful than Ventress. Which is dumb. Cuz obviously they're just gonna fight without Vader trying to TK her directly.
Yah definitely above Ventress at this point, aside from having plainly superior Force feats, Filoni has already confirmed that the Grand Inquisitor is around Ventress-level, whom Kanan defeated. There is also the fact that while Kanan struggled with the Seventh Sister, Ahsoka absolutely humiliated her while fending of the 7th Brother.
Neither am I sure where this "Vader doesn't use TK in a fight" idea is coming from, when it his first on-screen showing he's TKing Kanan & Ezra...
Obviously if he's in a position to telekinetically dominate Ahsoka (as he would be Ventress) he will do so. And as far as Dooku & Vader are concerned, they fight pretty damn similar.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yah definitely above Ventress at this point, aside from having plainly superior Force feats, Filoni has already confirmed that the Grand Inquisitor is around Ventress-level, whom Kanan defeated. There is also the fact that while Kanan struggled with the Seventh Sister, Ahsoka absolutely humiliated her while fending of the 7th Brother.Neither am I sure where this "Vader doesn't use TK in a fight" idea is coming from, when it his first on-screen showing he's TKing Kanan & Ezra...
Obviously if he's in a position to telekinetically dominate Ahsoka (as he would be Ventress) he will do so. And as far as Dooku & Vader are concerned, they fight pretty damn similar.
When did Filoni confirm that? And I thought he specified it was just his opinion, unless you're referring to another interview. Also, Ahsoka didn't humiliate the 7th Sister.
Not to mention that he probably means S1 or earlier Ventress, considering that Sidious became wary of Ventress' power and tried to have her killed by S3. According to Filoni he has a much tighter leash on the Inquisitors' power, so even approaching Ventress at her peak is probably out of the question.
Kanan's not as strong as the AotC protags yet; doubt he ever will be. That said, Ahsoka's performance pretty damn impressive; I do think at this point she's at least as strong as the stronger incarnations of Ventress.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He said strongest, not Grand. No point in deciding what that means till we've seen all the inquisitors.
This. Not sure why people keep assuming he meant GI.
Originally posted by BeniboyblingAnd yeah I doubt he meant her equal, just around that level.
He said something to the effect of "around her level but probably still below her"
So yeah, he/she will be in Ventress's tier but still won't be her equal.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not to mention that he probably means S1 or earlier Ventress, considering that Sidious became wary of Ventress' power and tried to have her killed by S3. According to Filoni he has a much tighter leash on the Inquisitors' power, so even approaching Ventress at her peak is probably out of the question.
That's a good point, and you're probably right on the mark there.
But Ventress might have been more of a threat because she was still growing in power, and because Sidious didn't trust Dooku not to keep teaching her to grow even stronger.
Whilst the most powerful Inquisitor might have reached his/her peak, and aren't going to grow any more under Palpatine/Vader.
Originally posted by Darth ThorBecause the Grand Inquisitor is in charge, and Sith hierarchy tends to if not always place the most powerful at the top, as the Sith Code dictates. So it just seems strange that there would exist another Inquisitor more powerful than the GI, which surely would give them claim to usurp him.
This. Not sure why people keep assuming he meant GI.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because the Grand Inquisitor is in charge, and Sith hierarchy tends to if not always place the most powerful at the top, as the Sith Code dictates. So it just seems strange that there would exist another Inquisitor more powerful than the GI, which surely would give them claim to usurp him.
Except Inquisitors are not Sith. They are given their rankings by Palpatine/Vader. So its not completely unreasonable to think they put the smartest most tactical Inq in charge.
Heck the GI would answer to Tarkin. Doesn't mean Tarkin could take out GI in a fight.
Still is possible GI is the most powerful. Perhaps even Probable. But it's not confirmed as of yet.
Anyway if he was the most powerful than it was clearly a one off Zone moment for Kanan to defeat him.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Kanan's not as strong as the AotC protags yet; doubt he ever will be. That said, Ahsoka's performance pretty damn impressive; I do think at this point she's at least as strong as the stronger incarnations of Ventress.