Originally posted by Nephthys
You know what I mean. Legends is the EU and it still has Canon in it too.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
As I've said quite a bunch of times now. Canon Vader made use of the Force in all his engagements (including this one) bar the final confrontation with Luke, and his fight with Kenobi. So saying its not his MO just ain't true.As for simply not having an opening, that would be a more reasonable explanation if he didn't use one to BFR her.
Regardless, Ahsoka being too fast and/or skilled for Vader to use the Force would only make her performance more impressive, especially considering the setting. And if anything, implies the disparity between them isn't great enough for TK domination to be an option.
Beni, you can't use the "they didn't have the technology to have Vader ragdoll in the OT" as an argument, as you have been, without addressing the fact Rebels is designed to be incredibly reminiscent of the old films. You yourself complained about that relentlessly during the first Inquisitor vs Kanan fight, saying the green flashes on Lightsaber clashes showed too much of an anchor to the old films.
I don't keep up with the show too well, but to my knowledge we haven't seen any Yoda-Ventress, Dooku-Ventress or Sidious-Maul style ragdolls yet, so the argument that it's not in the old film style therefore we ignore those confrontations is flawed....
Not saying he could ragdoll her, just saying its a flawed argument.
Originally posted by Selenial
Beni, you can't use the "they didn't have the technology to have Vader ragdoll in the OT" as an argument, as you have been, without addressing the fact Rebels is designed to be incredibly reminiscent of the old films. You yourself complained about that relentlessly during the first Inquisitor vs Kanan fight, saying the green flashes on Lightsaber clashes showed too much of an anchor to the old films.I don't keep up with the show too well, but to my knowledge we haven't seen any Yoda-Ventress, Dooku-Ventress or Sidious-Maul style ragdolls yet, so the argument that it's not in the old film style therefore we ignore those confrontations is flawed....
Not saying he could ragdoll her, just saying its a flawed argument.
Well, Maul did ragdoll the Sixth Sister in this very episode. So, um.....
Originally posted by Selenial
Beni, you can't use the "they didn't have the technology to have Vader ragdoll in the OT" as an argument, as you have been, without addressing the fact Rebels is designed to be incredibly reminiscent of the old films. You yourself complained about that relentlessly during the first Inquisitor vs Kanan fight, saying the green flashes on Lightsaber clashes showed too much of an anchor to the old films.I don't keep up with the show too well, but to my knowledge we haven't seen any Yoda-Ventress, Dooku-Ventress or Sidious-Maul style ragdolls yet, so the argument that it's not in the old film style therefore we ignore those confrontations is flawed....
Not saying he could ragdoll her, just saying its a flawed argument.
Originally posted by Selenial
Pretty ****ing horrendous, thanks for asking 😄All jokes aside though, trying to get back into this. Tried on the SW:TOR forums but the only thread going is Beni's hunger games thing which is (no offense darling) boring as ****. I've evidently missed a lot though, like where the **** is Ant? mmm
He tried to teabag a mod and got a 90 day ban.
Originally posted by Selenial
You're missing the point though, the Sixth sister was always designed as canon fodder.Maul wasn't. Ventress wasn't. We haven't seen a single clash between powerful individuals in which the force is a majorly defining factor, that doesn't mean a power similarity is implied....
In that case all of the 👆's.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well, Maul did ragdoll the Sixth Sister in this very episode. So, um.....
You're missing the point though, the Sixth sister was always designed as canon fodder.
Maul wasn't. Ventress wasn't. We haven't seen a single clash between powerful individuals in which the force is a majorly defining factor, that doesn't mean a power similarity is implied....
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622126&highlight=userid%3A141979
Revanchiste got taken out in the crossfire.
Originally posted by NephthysI'd say disarming Luke, telekinetically bombarding him, and pulling a statue on top of Karbin was pretty decisive.
Furthermore, you say "except for these two fight". How many Canon fights has Vader actually had? Those fights make up a substantial amount of Vader's Canon fighting style. The only person Canon Vader has ever ragdolled is Ezra, who he failed to make kill himself. And I never said that Vader doesn't use the Force, just that he doesn't tend to end fights with them off the bat or use them in a decisive manner.
Granted he doesn't always ragdoll. But there are otherwise to telekinetically dominate, and my argument is that those unequipped to deal with Vader's telekinesis, end up getting undermined by it in a big way, they certainly don't successfully fight back with their own powers, as Ahsoka did. I'd go as far as to say that wouldn't even be possible.
I'm also inclined to believe Vader's performance against Aiolin and Morit will substantiate that argument.