How Powerful Is Ahsoka Now?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Ahsoka also had plenty of things in her favor such as knowing Vader's combat style,

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
and Vader's own emotional conflict

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Ahsoka also had plenty of things in her favor such as knowing Vader's combat style, which is something the writer said she would have

Which is still so stupid as Vader fights nothing like Anakin..

Originally posted by FreshestSlice

Was never said by anyone ever. The closest is, "You need to be a 9 to challenge Sidious," which is something Anakin is.

Nah it was "you have to be Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor.. Anakin could have defeated the Emperor had he not got all beat up"

But as Ares has already pointed out, the first part of that statement just doesn't Hold up post TCW. And the second part doesn't hold up post Disney Canon.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Which is still so stupid as Vader fights nothing like Anakin..

Is that confirmed in the new Canon?

He's been confirmed to have retooled his fighting style after Mustafar, IIRC.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
"Vader still serves Sidious" is not an argument towards Sidious being more powerful than Vader. Nor is "Sidious defeated Maul and Savage, and I don't think Mace actually won." You saying, "The PT is about how great Sidious and Yoda are," is also by far the most nonsensical thing said so far.

Because he needs an apprentice lined up and Sidious keeps killing them all when they get Ventress level?

Was never said by anyone ever. The closest is, "You need to be a 9 to challenge Sidious," which is something Anakin is.

Who is no match for Vader by his own words, so that's not even a point in your favor. Not to mention Sidious being challenged by the likes of a weakened Talzin. Ahsoka also had plenty of things in her favor such as knowing Vader's combat style, which is something the writer said she would have, more agility from not being a robot, and Vader's own emotional conflict in her favor. Being more technically powerful doesn't mean you can obliterate everyone who's weaker than you. That's never been true.

Wouldn't Vader have an easier time procuring an apprentice if Palpatine was, y'know, no longer around to kill them off?

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Is that confirmed in the new Canon?

I believe so and even just logically, his entire body wouldn't work as it would before, it would make sense he would have to rework it to fit his heavier/bulkier body.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
and Vader's own emotional conflict

Just kidding Fresh, I want to metaphorically dismember you. 🙂

Here comes the part where we accept one statement from the authors but none of the others.

Lel. What statements say Vader was emotionally conflicted, Fresh?

I love how people insist on bringing that point up even though it's been shot down countless times.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lel. What statements say Vader was emotionally conflicted, Fresh?

Subjective interpretations from Freshest on how Vader is feeling based on how he is acting vs. actual definitive statements from the person who wrote the scene on what Vader was feeling. Hmmmmmm. mmm

Originally posted by FreshestSlice

Was never said by anyone ever. The closest is, "You need to be a 9 to challenge Sidious," which is something Anakin is.

Okay, but that's not true at all.

"You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor," Lucas says. "If Anakin hadn't got all beat up, he could've beat the Emperor."
-George Lucas, The Making of Revenge of the Sith

But because he did get all beat up, he can't beat the Emperor. Are we done?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The way he acts towards her makes him seem conflicted. That does not mean that he doesn't want to kill her. People aren't all or nothing in the way they feel, something Joker likes to ignore.

And though it's also stated Ahsoka is a source of pain and anguish for Vader, at this point he is no longer "between worlds", he is instead again explicitly said to be fully seated in the dark side, and fully capable of channelling those aforementioned emotions into power.

Simply put, Vader was not conflicted, at all, and if anything was more empowered than ever. 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, your personal inference aside however (though I'm intrigued to know how you got that impression) it's been explicitly stated by Dave Filoni that, by Lucas' edict, only Luke can represent conflict for Vader. Instead he says that Vader was fully committed to killing Ahsoka, extraordinarily so, no conflict, no hesitation.

And though it's also stated Ahsoka is a source of pain and anguish for Vader, at this point he is no longer "between worlds", he is instead again explicitly said to be fully seated in the dark side, and fully capable of channelling those aforementioned emotions into power.

Simply put, Vader was not conflicted, at all, and if anything was more empowered than ever. 👆

🙂

I love how Ahsoka giving Vader a legit fight is bad when literally everyone else does. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, your personal inference aside however (though I'm intrigued to know how you got that impression) it's been explicitly stated by Dave Filoni that, by Lucas' edict, only Luke can represent conflict for Vader. Instead he says that Vader was fully committed to killing Ahsoka, extraordinarily so, no conflict, no hesitation.

And though it's also stated Ahsoka is a source of pain and anguish for Vader, at this point he is no longer "between worlds", he is instead again explicitly said to be fully seated in the dark side, and fully capable of channelling those aforementioned emotions into power.

Simply put, Vader was not conflicted, at all, and if anything was more empowered than ever. 👆