Vader vs. Revan--who is better in each category?

Quick reminder of the guy who is laughing at Neph:

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I've read every single respect thread of his except the one made by you (lol).

Ventress wins.

Begone.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Funny, considering I'm the only one who ever made a Revan Respect Thread.

How embarrassing. This is going on my profile. 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
Is there any verifiable way to show Vader knows more esoteric techniques? Because I call bullshit, Vader is no sorcerer and doesn't do rituals or alchemy and hasn't utilised the Force in the subtle ways that Revan has.

He doesn't even have lightning for christsakes.

He actually has various esoteric powers, though not as much as Revan. Hell, I'd consider Kinetite more esoteric than lightning, lol.

1. Vader.
2. Revan
3. Vader.
4. Vader
5. Vader
6. Revan
7. Vader.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Plus like, the Thought Bomb, his Ruusan fire ritual, and his Yavin IV ritual. 👆

And Revan got Force Teleportation and shit.

I totally forgot about teleportation. That's definitely a point in his favor. He can also deepen his force connection through performing practical work and knows alot about force bonds and force wounds and how to corrupt Jedi in subtle and overt ways. Revan's knowledge and understanding vastly outweighs that of a meathead like Vader.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He actually has various esoteric powers, though not as much as Revan. Hell, I'd consider Kinetite more esoteric than lightning, lol.

So would I, I was just pointing out that even some basic powers were beyond him. Though isn't Kinetite basically focused TK?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He actually has various esoteric powers, though not as much as Revan. Hell, I'd consider Kinetite more esoteric than lightning, lol.

Probably the most esoteric ability I've seen Vader use was when he turned a Stormtrooper to ash using some unspecified power.

How is Revan faster than Vader? Lol. His best speed feat was dodging blaster bolts in the novel, Vader has dodged ATT fire in one of the newer comics, blitzed Jedi, and moved fast enough to appear to teleport/appear out of thin air.

I don't recall anything from Revan in speed being amazing, at least nothing like dodging water droplets like Darth Bane

Because Vader is slower than X, Y, and Z fodder Jedi on a daily basis. 👆

I remember a time Revan's combat feats weren't that far above Ventress's, yet with logic and reason most of us placed him on Dooku's level. Suddenly the same logic is applied to Vader in a certain category and TOR fans are mad.

In that case, Dooku crushes Revan in a pretty good fight.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Because Vader is slower than X, Y, and Z fodder Jedi on a daily basis. 👆

So you have no superior feats for Revan being faster. Ok thanks.

@S66: No, that time was literally because you shitheads knew jack shit about Revan.

Most of the members adapted, you didn't. Admit your disgracehood and move on.

Originally posted by carthage
So you have no superior feats for Revan being faster. Ok thanks.

Originally posted by Live Your Life
And Vader blitzed Jedi that can casually deflect and evade blaster fire.

Plus the Mandalorian war droids in the air, possibly. Those guys have the firepower to break the hulls of star destroyers.

Vader has kept up with strike forces while barely accustomed to his suit.

If we are suddenly basing everything on feats. Revan is barely above Ventress, and gets tooled by Vader or Dooku.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I remember a time Revan's combat feats weren't that far above Ventress's, yet with logic and reason most of us placed him on Dooku's level. Suddenly the same logic is applied to Vader in a certain category and TOR fans are mad.

In that case, Dooku crushes Revan in a pretty good fight.

Like Ant said, that was due to a lack of feats and info for Revan. We know alot about Vader, more than most other characters and he's never been someone who uses esoteric techniques. Revan meanwhile has a massive and broad knowledge of the Force.

And sorry, but your argument just wasn't that convincing. Maybe if you'd posted what exactly this implication that you mentioned was I'd feel more compelled to give Vader the benefit of the doubt. As of now, no.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Vader has kept up with strike forces while barely accustomed to his suit.

If we are suddenly basing everything on feats. Revan is barely above Ventress, and gets tooled by Vader or Dooku.

Shitty strike teams of randoms.

Lmao, Revan has way better feats than Ventress. Get lost S66.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Vader has kept up with strike forces while barely accustomed to his suit.

If we are suddenly basing everything on feats. Revan is barely above Ventress, and gets tooled by Vader or Dooku.

Please stop talking. All you are doing is embarrassing yourself. 👆 You admitted you don't even know Revan's feats, this is sad... really.

. Admit your disgracehood and move on.

Only after you admit that's totally not a word.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Only after you admit that's totally not a word.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Like Ant said, that was due to a lack of feats and info for Revan.

If you can't see the double standard in this statement then you really should rest.

I mean, that same excuse can be applied to Vader.

I just said it's questionable then applied my reasons, and you guys get riled up. Why?

Revan outpassing basilisks, hordes of battle droids, and being faster than an echani champion that's defeated more Jedi than most of the PT Dark Jedi have ever faced is Ventress-level? You can do better.

We place TOR characters on Dooku's level because of lack of feats and info.

LMAO!