Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your anger towards S66 is misplaced. Dude's just rightly putting Sidious at the top of the heap. Nothing wrong with that.I think you don't hate 66 as much as you hate Sidious himself. Which is weird, because you were such a devoted champion of the Emperor for so long. excellent
Sidious has nothing to do with anything. It's basically any PT character.. And if it's Sidious, it's almost always a wtfpwn. Like I said, very amusing.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You were the one who brought up beating magnaguards as being superior to something, not I, so how am I lowballing. She's a Padawan, one clearly bellow Ventress, so using an opponent she is greater than as a baseline is kind of stupid.The ****? Compared to the monsters of the PT like Anakin, Sidious, Yoda, Dooku, or Maul? Sure, but you are confusing me with someone else. I've always advocated for the KotOR having pretty elite Jedi, because that's said in game. They're all elite war veterans, so please tell me the logic behind them being weak compared to randoms in the PT?
You could, you know, play the game? It's all said in there. And Revan faced armies, literal armies, of said droids, at a time. For hours. Fisto going up a few magnaguards doesn't compare in anyway. It doesn't mean Fisto is weak. It means Revan is stronger.
Savage isn't ragdolling Marr, Satele, Protags and friends. 😬
It happens in a cutscene. How is a cutscene a game mechanic? It's a plot telling device by definition. 😬
I don't need to prove superiority over Ventress, because you were the one who said Ventress compares. The burden of proof lies with you, and I find it lacking. Regardless, I've sighted examples of Revan's superior combat record to Ventress, as well as his feats in speed, and you've given me Magnaguards.
Get to it then. I'm waiting for something substantial, anything really, and I have all the time in the world to wait.
It's kind of funny how you think one needs to lowball someone who loses constantly in almost every appearance she has. You putting your fingers in your ears and saying, "But Fisto," doesn't really change that.
It also has shit to do with this thread.
You're not understanding how this works. Mentioning Ahsoka in an attempt to lowball the feat, would only indicate Ahsoka is just that good (ignoring the fact that magnaguards are different in terms of skill). Yes, considering their reaction speed and ability to adapt rather instantly, cutting down magnaguards with such ease impresses me a lot more than cutting down an army, with an unknown amount of effort within a much bigger gap of time. See that's the thing when we lack details behind a certain feat. Context/details matter a lot when evaluating. For instance, Vader has fought a larger number of jedi at the same time than Palp ever has, and for a longer period of time, yet I doubt anyone in their right mind would think it's better than Sidious blitzing three in perhaps a second. See where I'm getting at here? And seriously, you don't think Fisto could take on armies of magnaguards within the span of hours, given the ease with which he cut them down in a very short amount of time? Unless you can prove those fodder troops are better than magnaguards, then you can't determine Revan cutting down a much larger army in a much larger period of time is better. You're just arguing from your opinion, which I'm not really interested in. By that logic you may as well put him on Sidious's level in terms of saber prowess.
I was referring to Revan before that fight. His best TK feat before then was bringing down meteorites, a feat Ventress has matched when crushing giants with huge boulders that she ripped from a cave. As for Revan force pushing Satele and crew, is hardly ragdolling them. Savage, in a fit of rage, has dominated both Dooku and Ventress simultaneously, but even outside of that feat, he's sent Anakin and Kenobi flying numerous times, and has done the same to Maul and some other jedi. Since you don't care much about details/context, I might as well add in their Ventress nearly choking out Kenobi and Skywalker at the same time, which is another display of domination, I've yet to see Revan match. Sorry but you don't lose to people you can casually ragdoll.
Yes, I brought up Ventress for a specific reason, and you jumped to it and decided to debate me on that of all things, which suggests you missed the point. But go ahead and continue, because you've yet to prove anything other than you have an opinion. But I assure you, harping on Ahsoka is diminishing your argument, not helping. If you were following my point, you'd realize that.
Originally posted by psmith81992
Oh see how cute now you gave him the opening he needed. After looking foolish he can simply say, "oh uh ha I was trolling all of you!". You're definitely the handicap sticker he needs but not the one he deserves.
I'm not trolling.
Temp just knows where I'm going with all of this. Which should be easy to understand, even for Ant as dense as he is.
You're a special case, though. Once you brought up Krayt's force ripples to indicate superiority over Dooku as a combatant, I was done with you in debating (lol).
You're a special case, though. Once you brought up Krayt's force ripples to indicate superiority over Dooku as a combatant, I was done with you in debating (lol).
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It would be a formal debate on a separate thread for us specifically, btw.Have you done those before?
I've never done one, but I know what you're talking about. Comic Vine style.
You start it off. Don't mind my stalker if he/she/it posts on it, though. Well he'll likely just agree with you and insult me anyway. Like a mad ex or something.