Vitiate's DC purge feats lack context and were probably made possible with prep and his Natemha feat is not combat applicable. However, he doesn't need those feats to defeat this team.
Emperor Vitiate has easily taken care of Malak and Revan:
"We underestimated his power. When we confronted him, he didn’t even have to fight us. Instead, he broke our wills. He dominated our minds, turning us into puppets to do his bidding."
He stomped Revan and was strong enough to defeat Scourge, Meetra and Revan at the same time:
"Betraying his allies had not altered the inevitable outcome; the Emperor would have won regardless."
He stomped the Braga Strike team:
https://youtu.be/bq5X3F3g69c?t=9m37s
Even when extremely weakened, his TK was powerful enough to bring down a huge portion of the Dark Temple.
Once he unleashes his FLS, the fight is over. 👆
@ Sinious
Finally some good points in favor of Vitiate and clarification of his feats (ritual etc.) 👆
Originally posted by Sinious
Once he unleashes his FLS, the fight is over. 👆
Agreed, finally some legible points from the Vitiate supporters that isn't just barely substantiated wank. 👆
As for how that changes the fight in my eyes, not much to be honest. Krayt wont be dominated by Vitiate, and Traya has some of the best Telepathy and concealment abilities we've yet seen.
Her unleashing drain isn't a win for team 2, but it's enough to put Vitiate on the backfoot that they could overcome him themselves.
Originally posted by Stigma
@ SiniousFinally some good points in favor of Vitiate and clarification of his feats (ritual etc.) 👆
Originally posted by Selenial
Agreed, finally some legible points from the Vitiate supporters that isn't just barely substantiated wank. 👆
Thanks.
The drain is an issue in debates. I personally do not believe that Nihilus could drain Vitiate let alone Kreia. However, I agree that it will keep Vitiate busy.
This is a matter of who strikes first then. Against the Braga team, Vitiate was able to cast an areal FLS+another FL on HoT and charged his final blast simultaneously. He instantaneously casted his first areal attack so unless Kreia or Krayt can unleash an attack faster than him, he will have a huge advantage.
He is powerful enough to keep the duo on the defensive with the same tactic(stalling the enemy with FLS) and can charge up a thunderous blast while doing so. The individuals in this team are more powerful than the Braga strike team's average but they are fewer in numbers so Vitiate won't have to spread the attack. His FLS will be more concentrated and so it will be more exhausting to defend against it.
He stomped every opponent he faced with his fully powered original body which explains why he has surpassed everyone else in TOR era in accolades/hype by a huge margin. I strongly believe that he can win this.
Originally posted by Selenial
Agreed, finally some legible points from the Vitiate supporters that isn't just barely substantiated wank. 👆As for how that changes the fight in my eyes, not much to be honest. Krayt wont be dominated by Vitiate, and Traya has some of the best Telepathy and concealment abilities we've yet seen.
Her unleashing drain isn't a win for team 2, but it's enough to put Vitiate on the backfoot that they could overcome him themselves.
Originally posted by Sinious
Vitiate's DC purge feats lack context and were probably made possible with prep and his Natemha feat is not combat applicable. However, he doesn't need those feats to defeat this team.
Also, what do you imply with the so-called prep? What is this supposed to mean? Did Vitiate lit candles or something?
Vitiate is stated to have explored the most sinister and uncharted depths of the dark side, it is likely possible that he have command of techniques that are not norm. And it is likely that Vitiate unleashed a special power to defeat the Sith Strike Team led by Darth Lokess. This revelation came in a medium released after novels and game. Therefore, newer revelations may come as a surprise to some, but they represent Vitiate's capabilities in firm.
Originally posted by StigmaSo, putting up actual impressive feats, as opposed to "Traya drained 3 Jedi Master's, so she automatically wins!" is a good argument, even though Vitiate clearly has superior drain ability to her and would easily overpower her.
@ SiniousFinally some good points in favor of Vitiate and clarification of his feats (ritual etc.) 👆
Do you think someone as powerful, both physically and in the force, like Krayt won't be able to stall Vitiate's FLS (for example, with his saber) and buy a few moments for Traya to unleash her drain on Viti?
Vitiate has the second strongest Lightning in the entire Star Wars mythos.
Jesus Christ, draining 3 random Jedi Master's isn't impressive compared to what Vitiate has done.
Draining a planet, while draining 8,000 Sith Lord's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Draining 3 KOTOR former council member's, that have no feats to their name.
Traya is weaker fhen Meetra, there is no doubt of that fact.
Also, @ Sinious, it MIGHT not be combat applicable, but draining the 8,000 Sith Lords and using their power is, as he didn't use any prep, just took control of them, drained the planet, and them as well.
Ritual or not, the fact that he was able to do ANYTHING to 8,000 Sith Lord's is VERY VERYYYYY impressive, compared to the one feat Traya has, draining 3 Jedi Master's.
Oh, she's also known for, losing to Meetra, on a possible DS Nexus, which amped herself, and hindered Meetra. She's also lost to Sion one-on-one at the beginning of the game. She is just an un-impressive character, all-around.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
How does that make any sense??She defeats her one-on-one, yet isn't more powerful then her??
F*ck SW Logic, dude, I'm done.
As for the logic, Mr. Lucas is responsible for the mess since Episode III. Anakin Skywalker defeated Count Dooku but failed to defeat Obi-Wan. Great.
Even WITH Traya's advantages, Meetra still won.
She fought through a Sith academy with Dark Jedi Masters inside, fought Lightsaber's controlled by Traya, and yet somehow, Traya is still more powerful.
Not even mentioning the fact that Malachor V is apparently a DS Nexus, effectively making Traya stronger, and Meetra weaker...