Vitiate vs. Traya and Krayt Reborn

Started by Nephthys6 pages

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Vrook: You can feel the Force.
Exile: I can feel the Force.
Vrook: So you think.

Pretty clear contradiction and pretty weak writing. Perhaps if Vrook experienced some sort of epiphany between now and then... But he didn't. It's just weak writing masquerading as deep and thought provoking because the voice actors spoke in sepulchral tones and Avellone is deft with a thesaurus. 😬

Speaking of unnatural, I see you're still upset. A rather long period, it seems. You should seriously change that avatar to the one I suggested. 😉

Vrook literally says she can feel the Force. His "so you think" was just him saying "you think you've recovered your connection but you actually haven't" And then he follows it up with "but it's not the strength of a Jedi you feel" aka its not a normal force connection. Since he just monologued about this and they all follow up and explain whats going on in detail, its a pretty obvious distinction that he's making thats readily understandable by anyone giving the writing an ounce of credit and paying the remotest bit of attention. A line can't be confusing if they immediately explain what it means in the next sentence. There's absolutely no contradiction here because there is a very clear distinction between the two sentences.

Look at it in context:

Masters: You're a Wound in the Force. Theres a hole that cannot be filled in you.
Exile: What? But I can feel the force.
Vrook: Sure you can feel it, but you can't feel yourself. Your a bizarre weirdo thats ****ing everything up.
Exile: But I can feel the Force!
Vrook: Not like a normal Jedi.
Kavar: Yeah, your a total weirdo vampire thing.

It's pretty simple.

Sounds pretty weak, Neph. Karpyshyn could do better.

Joking about Drew doing better at anything should be a capital offense.

Karpyshyn would have just stated it outright in plain terms that rob the reveal of it's mystique and excitement. Avellone's writing makes it seem much more mystical and cool than if they'd have clinically laid it all out.

Putting it in slightly vague terms also makes the player feel smart for having understood it, despite it being pretty easily to get. It's a common trick for mysteries.

Give me what you think would be the Karpyshyn rewrite.

Just go reread the Revan sections where the Emperor's abilities and backstory is explained.

I refuse. It's painful.

Then my work here is done. >:]

You've got work left to do on deez nuts.

ohshit