Vitiate vs. Traya and Krayt Reborn

Meetra Surik being amped on Malachor V makes no sense to me.

Following are the observable aspects of the duel:

1. Surik chops off the remaining hand of Darth Traya.*
2. Traya initiates telekinetic lightsaber combat.**
3. Surik manages to outgun Traya's telekinetic lightsaber combat prowess and severe their bond.***

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*This loss would have weakened Traya.
**Tedious feat.
***Telekinetic lightsaber combat may have strained Traya even more then her loss of hand and severing of the bond may have proved to be too much for her to cope with.

She grew more powerful after ever person she kills - and she butchered an entire Sith Academy and Darth Sion. 👆

Plus, she has a bond with her companions, which is also amping her.

She used telekinetic lightsaber combat multiple times, and still lost.

Even afterwards, when she tried fighting HERSELF, she still died.

She lost to SION! SION CUT HER HAND OFF!

I don't care if it was a vibroblade! It shouldn't make a difference!

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
She grew more powerful after ever person she kills - and she butchered an entire Sith Academy and Darth Sion. 👆

Plus, she has a bond with her companions, which is also amping her.

Again, based on???

The ONLY thing being a wound in the force does, is having the ability to negate drain from Nihilus, and being able to kill the force.

There is nothing special about being a wound in the force.

They don't have special properties.

You're depressing me.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Exile was extremely amped during that fight.

LOL!!!!!

@Jmanghan: I have a feeling you didn't play KotOR 2 at all. Holy shit.

Vrook: "When you returned to us, we saw what had happened. You carry all those deaths at Malachor within you, and it has left a hole, a hunger that cannot be filled."

Kavar: "In you, we saw a wound in the Force."

Zez-Kai Ell: "In you, we saw the end of the Force."

Exile: "But... that makes no sense. I can feel the Force again."

Vrook: "Yes.. you can feel the Force, but you cannot feel yourself. You are a cipher, forming bonds, leeching the life of others, siphoning their wills and dominating them. It is the teaching of these new Sith, to feed on others, on other Force Sensitives. They are symptomatic of the wound in the Force. You are a breach that must be closed. You transmit your pain, your suffering through the Force. Within you, we see something worse than merely the teaching of the Sith. What you carry may mean the death of the Force... and the death of the Jedi."

Exile: "But I can feel Force, strongly."

Vrook: "So you think. It is not the strength of a Jedi you feel."

Zez-Kai Ell: "He's right. It's... all the deaths you've caused to get here. You feed on it, and you grow stronger. You're like Malachor... it's in you, it's what you are now. You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, killing hundreds, only to grow more and more powerful. Why do you think that was?"

Kavar: "But what's worse is that bonding you have - it hasn't gone away. It's gotten stronger, and the more attachments you form, the more you draw others to you."

Vrook: "And that is why you are a threat to us all. [...] But it is of no consequence. Your ability to make such connections, such bonds so easily are why you cannot remain."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Jmanghan: I have a feeling you didn't play KotOR 2 at all. Holy shit.

Vrook: "When you returned to us, we saw what had happened. You carry all those deaths at Malachor within you, and it has left a hole, a hunger that cannot be filled."

Kavar: "In you, we saw a wound in the Force."

Zez-Kai Ell: "In you, we saw the end of the Force."

Exile: "But... that makes no sense. I can feel the Force again."

Vrook: "Yes.. you can feel the Force, but you cannot feel yourself. You are a cipher, forming bonds, leeching the life of others, siphoning their wills and dominating them. It is the teaching of these new Sith, to feed on others, on other Force Sensitives. They are symptomatic of the wound in the Force. You are a breach that must be closed. You transmit your pain, your suffering through the Force. Within you, we see something worse than merely the teaching of the Sith. What you carry may mean the death of the Force... and the death of the Jedi."

Exile: "But I can feel Force, strongly."

Vrook: "So you think. It is not the strength of a Jedi you feel."

Zez-Kai Ell: "He's right. It's... all the deaths you've caused to get here. You feed on it, and you grow stronger. You're like Malachor... it's in you, it's what you are now. You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, killing hundreds, only to grow more and more powerful. Why do you think that was?"

Kavar: "But what's worse is that bonding you have - it hasn't gone away. It's gotten stronger, and the more attachments you form, the more you draw others to you."

Vrook: "And that is why you are a threat to us all. [...] But it is of no consequence. Your ability to make such connections, such bonds so easily are why you cannot remain."

...So, you assume, that "bonds getting stronger"...

roughly translates to... "Bonds make your stronger".

...Wut...

And, even if that is true, it's not proven that those death's didn't cause permanent strength.

It's not just an amp, by that logic, its an effective power boost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtByaOxiwE 😐

No, I get that it gives a power boost. But I don't believe it's just a short amp.

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
She used telekinetic lightsaber combat multiple times, and still lost.

Even afterwards, when she tried fighting HERSELF, she still died.

She lost to SION! SION CUT HER HAND OFF!

I don't care if it was a vibroblade! It shouldn't make a difference!

Ant's also correct, and he cited evidence, whereas you gave nothing.

Seriously, you should stop playing Final Fantasy. That's obviously what's rotting your brain out.

She did not choke Sion out.

There is no way any SW character would risk losing a hand.

Restored content is non-canon, dude.

He proved that Meetra gets stronger, and I accept that, but its not just an amp :/

For starters, none of it's canon. Second, Obsidian wrote the story, and Obsidian wanted that content in. Third, Traya is canonically more powerful than the Exile where as Sion obviously isn't. Fourth, the **** does that even mean? "There is no way any SW character would risk losing a hand." is the most ironic statement I can possibly think of. Especially when it has no basis.

Yeah, but it was removed content.

D-Did you really just say KOTOR II is non-canon??

Sion beat Traya in the vanilla game.

If you bought both games for the Xbox, like I did, that piece of removed content can never be accessed.

No one has ever purposely lost a hand just because, why the **** would she want to lose her hand for no reason??

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yeah, but it was removed content.

D-Did you really just say KOTOR II is non-canon??

Sion beat Traya in the vanilla game.

All confirmed truths. Accept it and move on.

If you bought both games for the Xbox, like I did, that piece of removed content can never be accessed.

No one has ever purposely lost a hand just because, why the **** would she want to lose her hand for no reason??