Well the earth weighs 6 sextillion tons,that`s after,quadrillion,and quintillion.Only a skyfather level being should be able to move that kind of weight.That`s why I am not a fan of D.C they never try to follow physics,marvel at least tries(and I am I admit prejudice against D.c when growing up D.C was for kids,and Marvel for adults).I know it is not that way now,but when you here wonder twin powers activate.It takes you back to a poor time in D.C!
Originally posted by JBLwhat does it matter. All that matters is that Superman lifted the equivalent weight of the Earth. Who gives a flying f...k whether he lifted the Earth or not.
I dont care what that guy was reading. Superman never benched the earth, he never lifted the earth, the earth never moved, it was a calculation on a machine. There was no statement about spiderman being able to beat firelord, there was no machine and a human calculating his chances, spiderman beat the actual character on panel. Supermans feat did not a thing to the actual earth. What is so hard to understand about that??
Re: Which one seems more likely
Originally posted by Mindship
Superman has shown he has the strength to easily move earthweight. Actually moving the planet itself would require some sort of compensation for tidal forces, so the planet doesn't break apart, as well as a gargantuan platform to push against. Ergo, I see Superman visiting Space Depot (ie, where he gets those planet-towing chains from) for supplies to reinforce Earth's structure. If the feat still proves tough, it isn't due to lack of superstrength but lack of planetary structural integrity. But essentially: prep the planet and Supes will move it.Spider-Man beat Firelord but definitely not through h2h. At best, Spider-Man won through tactics (eg, using the environment); at worst, he won via PIS. A direct h2h confrontation between the two would otherwise leave one fried spider.
Ergo, imo, Superman's feat is more likely.
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This thread was mainly about allowing certain feats and banning other feats Spider-Man one the fight with his fists that an on panel feat that has been ruled not cannon on this forum because people deemed it not possible but they allow stuff like Superman bench pressing earth equal weight with no problem dragging multiple planets with a chain through space or reference to Superman tossing a ship that was bigger then the earth away like it no problem. Why alow one and not the other?
Re: Re: Which one seems more likely
Originally posted by Mindship
Superman has shown he has the strength to easily move earthweight. Actually moving the planet itself would require some sort of compensation for tidal forces, so the planet doesn't break apart, as well as a gargantuan platform to push against. Ergo, I see Superman visiting Space Depot (ie, where he gets those planet-towing chains from) for supplies to reinforce Earth's structure. If the feat still proves tough, it isn't due to lack of superstrength but lack of planetary structural integrity. But essentially: prep the planet and Supes will move it.
Spider-Man beat Firelord but definitely not through h2h. At best, Spider-Man won through tactics (eg, using the environment); at worst, he won via PIS. A direct h2h confrontation between the two would otherwise leave one fried spider.
Ergo, imo, Superman's feat is more likely.[/quote]
Originally posted by Bentley
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Originally posted by golem370
This thread was mainly about allowing certain feats and banning other feats Spider-Man one the fight with his fists that an on panel feat that has been ruled not cannon on this forum because people deemed it not possible but they allow stuff like Superman bench pressing earth equal weight with no problem dragging multiple planets with a chain through space or reference to Superman tossing a ship that was bigger then the earth away like it no problem. Why alow one and not the other?
I thought it might be.
Because Spiderman also has trouble with people far below Firelord. That's why. He struggles sometimes with the Vulture, after all. Superman has the supporting feats.
Use the law of averages, if you want. For every Firelord/Masterson Thor etc showing, Spiderman, over the course of his entire career, has many more showings lower than that - some even WAY lower.
For every 'DCnU benching earth' feat, does Superman have the low showings to make you question the feat as an outlier?
THAT will tell you why the forum disregards Spiderman KOing a herald of Galactus, and jizzes all over the Earth benching feat.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So, equivalent to its weight means what exactly? I can lift one kilo of Iron, but I can't lift one kilo of wood?
Nobody's saying you can't.
But you haven't.
You've lifted one kilo.
But you haven't lifted one kilo of wood.
So while it's very, very likely that you could (0.99), it's not as likely as you actually having done it (1).
This is not hard to grasp, and DS did obviously not intend it as a slight to Superman.
