Which one seems more likely

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I didn't read the entire first page at all. Or maybe I did, don't remember what the thread is about in any case.

So I feel pretty confident is saying that Iron Fist punching Gladiator in half is the most likely option

Having read the entire first page, I agree.

riv6672 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, if we are to take the numbers at face value....yes, yes he is.

150 billion vs sextillion tons? That's a massive amount.


Secret Wars was published in 1984. That was right before Crisis on Infinite Earths, where Superman came back, post series, at a level that would have made the Hulk feat impressive for him to achieve.
One of the things Crisis did was tone down the planet juggling, to make Supes more interesting.
Since then, both characters have, via company one upsmanship, remained fairly equal, with Supes emerging as stronger on average, but the Hulk's stronger/madder ability giving him the advantage in the long run.
And yes i'm well aware people will disagree with that, i dont mind.
So, like i said before, "no. He's not".

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Originally posted by riv6672
Secret Wars was published in 1984. That was right before Crisis on Infinite Earths, where Superman came back, post series, at a level that would have made the Hulk feat impressive for him to achieve.
One of the things Crisis did was tone down the planet juggling, to make Supes more interesting.
Since then, both characters have, via company one upsmanship, remained fairly equal, with Supes emerging as stronger on average, but the Hulk's stronger/madder ability giving him the advantage in the long run.
And yes i'm well aware people will disagree with that, i dont mind.
So, like i said before, "no. He's not".

But at the time, i.e, 1984, right BEFORE the Crisis.....Superman had been juggling planets.

So when Secret Wars came out, lifting a 150 billion ton mountain would have been nothing to a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian like Supes. So it's still yes 🙂

If you then compare it to post-Crisis Superman during the late 80s/early 90s, then no, the gap would've been much smaller as to almost be nonexistent. Of course, by then the Hulk was a weaker variation, so you'd have to adjust accordingly.

riv6672 Senior Member

Funny thing about that planet juggling. Supes was brought down from that level so as to be more interesting. And now, he's back up to pressing a planet...😇

relentless1 Dark Overlord of KMC

IIRC superman has benched the equivalent of the Earth for a cpl days before

riv6672 Senior Member

Interesting....😉

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by zom1967
Well the Hulk squatted a mountain range in Secret Wars,and that was beyond belief!Is supes really that much stronger than the Hulk?

Look at everything as a whole.

riv6672 Senior Member

Looking at everything as a whole...
...no. He's not.

ODG Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But at the time, i.e, 1984, right BEFORE the Crisis.....Superman had been juggling planets.
Are you sure about that?

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by zom1967
Well the Hulk squatted a mountain range in Secret Wars,and that was beyond belief!Is supes really that much stronger than the Hulk?
That was a Hulk with Banner in the driver's seat and had to be tricked into getting mad enough into fueling his rage to remain bracing a mountain rage that was dropped on the Avengers made out of thin air.

Basically a weaker Hulk walks around with 150,000,000,000 tons of strength prior to amping which that version has trouble doing