Originally posted by carver9I just want to see Whis fight now. He didnt seem impressed by Goku and Hit to much lol. How powerful is that guy?
I think Bills was holding back when he fought Goku. His fight against Champa proves this. Champa and Bills physical blows was about to destroy both Universe 6 and 7. He didn't display that kind of power against Goku.I didn't finish reading your link. About to finish it today.
Originally posted by bbrem123
I just want to see Whis fight now. He didnt seem impressed by Goku and Hit to much lol. How powerful is that guy?
Whis, I think you have to be on another plane to fight against someone like him. He is dropping Beerus in a single hit. Treating him like fodder. That's so far above Goku and Vegeta (and Hit)...
I think it's going to be a while before we see a serious Whis.
Originally posted by bbrem123
Good. I like how they are making all the fillers canon. A lot of the story was in them. Added to the experience of the show.
It also makes sense now why Goku and Vegeta are so uber on the beginning of Super...
I mean, they already had beastly feats in Buu Saga fillers. Remember Base Vegeta hurting SSJ3 Gotenks inside Buu? Or SSJ2 Goku fighting evenly with Mystic Gohan? 😄
You know... Could this be proof that SSJR>>>SSJB? Because Goku just used Kaio-Ken x10 and didn't appear to be stronger than the gods. I had found it strange that these Universe 6 characters could compete with Saiyans that rivaled their gods, but it's possible we've been overestimating them by a massive margin.
Don't think that's the case. Goku admitted Blue is more powerful than Red during the beginning of his transformation. He never lost that power (since we all know this isn't a temporary transformation). With that said, if we take Bills statement as fact during the end of his battle against Goku, he was obviously holding back...and per what we are seeing, he was holding back to a large degree. During his fight against Goku, I didn't see a blood lust Bills. Seems like he was giving Goku a lot of chances when he could've outright killed him in some cases.
All this crying wolf over the feat arguments, while I'm just glad the quality of the fight choreography increased dramatically now... Great episode.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It also makes sense now why Goku and Vegeta are so uber on the beginning of Super...I mean, they already had beastly feats in Buu Saga fillers. Remember Base Vegeta hurting SSJ3 Gotenks inside Buu? Or SSJ2 Goku fighting evenly with Mystic Gohan? 😄
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
All this crying wolf over the silly feat arguments, while I'm just glad the quality of the fight choreography increased dramatically. Great episode.That wasn't the real Gotenks and Gohan though, just hollow images of them Buu created inside himself.
One of the top 5 fights in Dragonball history.
As a Vegeta fan, I'm not too worried. He will eventually catch up. It's also "sort of" clear that Goku still isn't close enough to Beerus for it to actually matter in a fight.
It was explained by Herms that Beerus' reaction was entirely dedicated to frustration in that Goku had not used the Kaioken technique the 1st time they fought. Beerus thought it would have been "useful". He wasn't worried that Goku could beat him.
This was a fantastic EP. The first 10/10 ep for this anime, imo.
Originally posted by ares834
Goku is now faster than Flash. Way faster.
Nah, Hal Jordan froze the entire Earth back in the day, because he was fed up with being a Green Lantern and wanted to pick a successor. While he's thinking, Clark Kent walks up to him, and gives him a pep talk. Of course, Hal doesn't think to ask why he could move at all. 🙂
That's Byrne era, early 90's. Flash is waaay faster.
Originally posted by Estacado
Read that....Spoiler:
Champa goes on a rampage wreckin shit...then Nipples stops him.
Episode 40 Spoiler --->
Spoiler:
Ep. 40 Title: “The Conclusion “"The tournament against universe 6 for the fate of the earth has finally come to a close. Furious at Hit and his teammates for losing, Champa tries to destroy them. As Cabba and others is Frozen in terror, someone enters the ring ... "
Originally posted by cdtmNah. I have never seen anything in comic to compete with that speed. Goku's speed feat is so crazy it doesn't even make sense.
Nah, Hal Jordan froze the entire Earth back in the day, because he was fed up with being a Green Lantern and wanted to pick a successor. While he's thinking, Clark Kent walks up to him, and gives him a pep talk. Of course, Hal doesn't think to ask why he could move at all. 🙂That's Byrne era, early 90's. Flash is waaay faster.
And Toriyama said he'll never catch up to Beerus?
If he's hitting Kaioken 100 and still not stronger, it's going to make the Beerus look kind of ridiculous. Why even get excited to fight an opponent that forces you to burn up all of 1% of your power? Why not fight Mr. Satan on his level, it's all the same thing.