Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

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Male sense. This evil Goku is the reason Trunks flee from the future...he's too powerful. Black Goku is going to transverse space time and make it into Universe 6. Think he is going to stomp everyone.

Originally posted by carver9
Male sense. This evil Goku is the reason Trunks flee from the future...he's too powerful. Black Goku is going to transverse space time and make it into Universe 6. Think he is going to stomp everyone.

Meant to say "make sense".

Beerus never trains. Want to bet, the day Goku surpasses him, he spends like five minutes training and ranks up like 100 Freeza's?

Future Trunks is coming to the past to kill Goku before he becomes evil.

Some other Goku.

Looks like Trunks forgot how time travel works, being more like Marvel dimension hopping. His universes androids were unrepentant murderers, while mainstream DBZ never killed a single person, and became Krillin's wife and a woodsman.

Is this the same future trunks from cell games or kid trunks all grown up? Man, I hope Trunks can turn ssj 3 or at least ssj 2.

If he plans on killing Goku at this stage, he'd have to be a god.

Yeah, he'd have to have some kind of ludicrous powerup since his last appearance in the Cell saga to be even remotely relevant now.

I suspect it might just be a future version of kid trunks though.

His hair color certainly seems different here, it has that SSGSS color to it but it's not the Super Saiyan hair we're used to so who knows if it's something like what Elder Kai did to Gohan but in a SSGSS state? He's the only hero left in his era so I wouldn't be surprised if all the upgrades we know of were dumped on him, he has to get stronger to be able to still keep everything safe. Albeit idk how he would have achieved SSG without the other Saiyans, maybe there was a loophole or maybe this form isn't as strong as SSB but he can sustain it indefinitely or for a longer time without a taxing power drain.

I don't know it's all speculation at this point, it might just be a different hair color who knows. I think he'll definitely be bringing something to the table though, I feel Toriyama will throw him a few bones due to his popularity and to make him relevant again.

A lot of people are not excited about Trunks reappearing and some people can't stand the idea of Black Goku (evil Goku). I like both ideas and we finally get to see an unleashed Goku.

Future Trunks is a fan-favorite, but guess you can't please everyone. I'll reserve judgment on 'evil Goku' till I see how they do it.

Huh? Vegeta didn't need other Saiyans, why would Trunks?

I like the direction DBS is going in right now. Two major arcs/events to look forward to.

Also, out of curiosity, how do you guys generally reconcile the lack of destructive scale in most DBS fights, (with SSG Goku vs Beerus being a large outlier in this regard)? I mean, we've also seen Champa and Beerus destroy planets with punches and kicks and what not, but still, I feel like that given the powers of these characters, they should ALL be consistently dishing out power on a cosmic scale. Is Ki Control really the main/only reason?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Huh? Vegeta didn't need other Saiyans, why would Trunks?
.....I completely forgot about that ^^;

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, out of curiosity, how do you guys generally reconcile the lack of destructive scale in most DBS fights, (with SSG Goku vs Beerus being a large outlier in this regard)? I mean, we've also seen Champa and Beerus destroy planets with punches and kicks and what not, but still, I feel like that given the powers of these characters, they should ALL be consistently dishing out power on a cosmic scale. Is Ki Control really the main/only reason?

Simple, DBZ fights usually look low level because they are. Dating all the way back to early Dragon Ball, Roshi went from blowing up a moon to claiming he couldn't possibly defeat the Red Ribbon Army, mostly made up of regular humans and a few metas.

But Toriyama's a joke writer, and the stories have always been a joke. In fact, past the Cell saga, I'm convinced Toriyama considered his fans more of a joke then his writing. They're the one's taking an obvious parody super seriously, so he's just feeding them the crap they want.

But I wouldn't take ANYTHING he writes any more seriously then I would a Squirrel Girl story. No, scratch that, I'd have much more respect for Squirrel Girl.. At least it's honest about what it is, and her fans seem to understand it's a joke.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, out of curiosity, how do you guys generally reconcile the lack of destructive scale in most DBS fights, (with SSG Goku vs Beerus being a large outlier in this regard)? I mean, we've also seen Champa and Beerus destroy planets with punches and kicks and what not, but still, I feel like that given the powers of these characters, they should ALL be consistently dishing out power on a cosmic scale. Is Ki Control really the main/only reason?

Think about it. Ever fight will not display what you're expecting to see. Points to Galactus fights against any other universal being. A Universe was threatened 3 times in DBS, that's literally all we need to know where they are at power wise and Goku was able to control his power to a certain level where he was able to fight all out without threatening the surrounding area.

With that said, Naruto will not be tanking moon busting in every fight, Thanos will not be busting planets in every fight, Galactus will not be threatening Galaxies in every fight. This is all fairy tales writing. It was established in Bills and Goku latest fight that the planet was in jeopardy.

Three? When besides the GvB and the BvC fights?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Three? When besides the GvB and the BvC fights?

Beerus and CHAMPA and it happened twice in the Goku vs Bills fight.