Originally posted by cdtmEven though they're twins. #18 is stated to be a weaker model of her brother #17. She probably has less reason to train, being a mom and enjoying her relaxing life.
Not when #17 matched blue, it doesn't. #18 could probably give Goku Blue a fight, too.
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Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
No point in going blue if Goku is gonna suppress his power to base level. It's simply bad writing. No excuse or justification can get around that fact.
Exactly. 👆
The writers/Toriyama had Goku turn blue for a reason. If they wanted his power supressed to base level, he would have stayed base level.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Lots of things get said in Super. Such as Namek Arc Frieza > Buu Saga Base Goku+.
By Beerus who can't read ki and was judging Goku based on his size. Vegeta knows Goku combat better than anyone. If he tells us the guy genuily holds back then you need to believe it. Stop trying to make everyone agree with your belief on DBS power levels. You've been sprouting this for weeks now. Move on.
Originally posted by cdtm
Exactly. 👆The writers/Toriyama had Goku turn blue for a reason. If they wanted his power supressed to base level, he would have stayed base level.
Goku turning blue then asking Krillin "what are you going to do now"? He didn't turn blue against Buu. Are you implying Krillin is more powerful than the new Buu?
Originally posted by carver9How was he able to read Zamazu's well enough to realize it felt like Black's?
By Beerus who can't read ki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yqwe3Ks7uk
and was judging Goku based on his size.Nah, super Saiyan is no bigger, but Beerus believes he can win by transforming.
Vegeta knows Goku combat better than anyone. If he tells us the guy genuily holds back then you need to believe it.I believe Super is even more inconsistent than it's predecessors. That's the full extent of my beliefs, power levels or otherwise.
Stop trying to make everyone agree with your belief on DBS power levels.What are you talking about? You yourself commented on the inconsistency of Vegeta claiming him and Goku had reached their limits in a previous episode. You said it was pissing you off.
You've been sprouting this for weeks now. Move on.And you've been spouting your views on Goku vs Superman for years. Move on? It's called a forum. Conversations get recycled. Chill out. 😎