Originally posted by cdtmJust go get a scouter from any of the dead freeza soldiers and do it. XD
Not likely without the dragon radar.Goku's full of it when he tells Freeza gathering them could take time, they've literally done it in an afternoon. Kind of sucks to be Shenron, having to deal with these guys all the time instead of an interesting mix of people from all over the world, as the job originally intended. 🙂
Originally posted by Estacado
@ Ridley opinion on the upcoming God Broly vs Blue Goku? 😛
I see current base Cabba and Caulifila around super buu from the buu arc at the most, being more generous would be ultimate gohan level. You guys think ss2 Cauli & LSS Kale were above ss Vegetio (buu arc)?
Now that makes Goku/Vegeta base in super is probably at ultimate gohan level from the buu saga.
Regarding Frieza, it'll be a letdown that Goku is on par w/ him in their mini fight next episode and I can't wait to picture everyone surprise reaction that Goku promise to bring Frieza back to life. lol
I know you all are wondering about the whole iron robots thing. It's not all bad, because iron have different grades to it if you mix it with other metals. So characters like one piece aren't to behind in strength (garp, he loses to an ssj level goku in strength alone but is closer in base goku form!) but characters like baki are way below, they're breaking the lowest grade of iron. These metals though are called transitional metals (metals that resemble one another in chemical behavior but do not much resemble elements in the numbered groups.). So a combination of metals like iron and gold will make iron weaker, but iron and aluminum will make it very and much more heat resistant. So a character like iron may be a threat base off of durability but still is very slow compared to them. They will have to batter him physically instead of using ki blasts.
Originally posted by Kento
Idk what is up with people not liking it. I mean, they HAD to know it was coming. It was the best part of the episode for me. Everything was ripped straight from movie 8, but I'm okay with that...
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So I take it no Pantera played when Kale went LSSJ right...that's lame.
Movie 12 is by far the best animated Dragon Ball material ever created.
Moving back to Super, we now know that Vermout is stronger than Beerus, and that Jiren is stronger than even Vermout.
So, combining all the material at our disposal, excluding Zeno, the Grand Priest, the Angels and the other Gods of Destruction, SSB Vegetto and Jiren are currently the only two characters who are confirmed to be stronger than a God of Destruction (and, maybe, also anime Merged Zamasu could probably fit in here).
I am of course assuming this is Jiren Whis was talking about, since 3/4 of the intro is dedicated to him and to Goku.
This fact is interesting also for two other reasons:
- It confirms once and for all that there are Gods of Destruction who are stronger/weaker than the others (see the supposed Vermout > Beerus > Champa power chain). Regarding this point, I still stand by my opinion for which Liquir is the strongest God of Destruction (or, at least, one between Liquir, Ivan and Gene is).
- It is basically telling us that the new form that Goku will reach will surpass Beerus.
Originally posted by Ridley_Primeliterally care nothing about the Freeza, I have been waiting for Kale to LSSJ out since the teaser so long ago. So I am really happy with the episode. I don't even care about ssj2 Caulifla.
Yeah, I was mainly expecting the episode to only be about Frieza's return, which it was to a point, but Kale suddenly stole the show which was great.
Originally posted by carver9I liked movie 13, 10, and 11 all better than I liked 12 tbh.
He was Universal. Extremely powerful and that IS the best DBZ movie minus Broly first movie.
Then again Goten and Trunks are my favorite characters.