Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

As far as movie villains go my list is:

Broly
Janemba
Super 13

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I'm more partial to the Bardock and Cooler movies, but different strokes for different folks.

Doubt it'll happen, but I wouldn't mind if Super had some non-canon movies not tied to the main episodes like how Z had a whole bunch of.

Bardock: Father of Goku is the best "movie", though it technically isn't one.

Battle of Gods is objectively the best film though. I love the first Broly movie and the character, but he's so ****ing dumb that it's impossible to argue the film is the best. The film also had a lot of frankly boring filler.

The World's Strongest is probably the best pre-BoG film.

I did enjoy World's Strongest, Tree of Might, and Dead Zone more than I enjoyed movies 4-7. I think Lord Slug has to be my least favorite DB movie.

Originally posted by Kento
I mean, Bardock is up there also. Since he's one of my favorite characters. I also loved the SSj bardock special. Trunks, Goten, Broli, Bardock, and Tien are my favorite characters, in that order. So, Taipon movie has a lot of Trunks moments, and then movies 10 and 11 are Goten and Trunks fighting Broli. Movie 9 I like because Tien forces Future Trunks to use ssj to win a fight, and Gokou doesn't just suddenly come out and win. Another reason I like movies 10 and 11, other people get to win also.,

Far as Broly, only his first film was passable for me, though I like him as much as the next person despite the occasional annoyance some of his fans sometimes gave me over the years. Fusion Reborn I'll admit is one of the best too. For the longest time it almost seemed like any of the ones that wasn't one of the Broly films was underrated with how much buzz the LSSJ generally gets...

Objectively though, I'll agree that Battle of the Gods is probably the best. It just broke the mold in ways that none the other movies did, canon or not... Then we had to have a step back IMO with RoF. I'm not knocking them for bringing back Frieza (or even again recently), but that was just pandering to nostalgia since he's one of the oldest fan favorites which would guarantee more money, and RoF didn't really do anything new for us like BotG did. If someone's a big Frieza fan I can understand liking RoF better, but for me it's BotG no contest.

And yeah, it's rarely ever disagreed that Lord Slug was the worst film. lol Even some of the moments with like Piccolo didn't save it for me.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I guess for some of those like you and me, which DBZ movies we liked the most can partly depend on which ones had the best fanservice for some of our favorite characters. Piccolo's one of my favorites and the Cooler films had some of his best moments (continuity be damned). Bardock himself is one of my favorites as well though.

Far as Broly, only his first film was passable for me, though I like him as much as the next person despite the occasional annoyance some of his fans sometimes gave me over the years. Fusion Reborn I'll admit is one of the best too. For the longest time it almost seemed like any of the ones that wasn't one of the Broly films was underrated with how much buzz the LSSJ generally gets...

Objectively though, I'll agree that Battle of the Gods is probably the best. It just broke the mold in ways that none the other movies did, canon or not... Then we had to have a step back IMO with RoF. I'm not knocking them for bringing back Frieza (or even again recently), but that was just pandering to nostalgia since he's one of the oldest fan favorites which would guarantee more money, and RoF didn't really do anything new for us like BotG did. If someone's a big Frieza fan I can understand liking RoF better, but for me it's BotG no contest.

And yeah, it's rarely ever disagreed that Lord Slug was the worst film. lol Even some of the moments with like Piccolo didn't save it for me.

Yea, BoG is really good. RoF was meh to me. Though the RoF movie was better than the series RoF arc. Android 13 is like the next worst movie imo after Slug. The others I can watch. The only time I like Android 13 and Slug is with Team Fourstar.

Originally posted by Kento
literally care nothing about the Freeza, I have been waiting for Kale to LSSJ out since the teaser so long ago. So I am really happy with the episode. I don't even care about ssj2 Caulifla. I liked movie 13, 10, and 11 all better than I liked 12 tbh.

Then again Goten and Trunks are my favorite characters.

Bio Broly was such a stupid villain. Should have just went with something original.

But I still liked it for being a movie centered around characters that aren't Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan.

Movie 13's best part is Vegeta ranting about his house being smashed, and then getting stomped again (Seriously, he deserves a abriged style "owned" counter. But at least he jobs in style every movie..)

Don't know if you all heard about the SPOILERS (please don't read if you are not curious). Frieza is goingnto Universe 4...he will not be fighting with the Z fighters. Yamcha is also coming to the team, filling in for Frieza. This is a major spoiler. If you get kicked out of the ring or knocked out, you perma die. You are wiped from existence.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know if you all heard about the SPOILERS (please don't read if you are not curious). Frieza is goingnto Universe 4...he will not be fighting with the Z fighters. Yamcha is also coming to the team, filling in for Frieza. This is a major spoiler. If you get kicked out of the ring or knocked out, you perma die. You are wiped from existence.

Well, Toiyama's script is probably just random Dr. Slump like pictures.

There is a thing here called spoiler tags Carv, though I already saw the thing about Frieza and universe 4, unfortunately. Such a dumb twist, especially if he's not even going to face the Z fighters again.

Also still not liking how bad it's all making Beerus look, even though it's kinda what they've been doing to him for awhile, but now they even make Beerus lose the grip he once had on Frieza? God of useless for U7...

But if he has another God protecting him why fear beerus? Gods and with like 90 minutes left what is Beerus gonna do?

Originally posted by cdtm
Bio Broly was such a stupid villain. Should have just went with something original.

But I still liked it for being a movie centered around characters that aren't Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan.

Movie 13's best part is Vegeta ranting about his house being smashed, and then getting stomped again (Seriously, he deserves a abriged style "owned" counter. But at least he jobs in style every movie..)

Vegeta always gets beat up so Goku can save him. XD Or so his 8 year old son can in Fat Buus case.

Beerus isn't the worst god ever.

Only beacause every other god is worse. King Yemma in particular is the worst death god ever. Doesn't seem to know anything about anything, just sits at his desk and lets the Z warriors do whatever they want.

Speaking of king Yemna... If he only covers Earth why was he able to resurrect Kid Buu?

Originally posted by Kento
But if he has another God protecting him why fear beerus? Gods and with like 90 minutes left what is Beerus gonna do?

But it has the best moments, 18 and Goten and Trunks vs Bio Warriors, Goten rage boost against Broli. Goten and Trunks in their rightful power place above 18 by a huge margin lol. Trunks mooning and flipping off Broli to give Goten time to save people. Krillin trying to act cool and be Piccolo

Vegeta always gets beat up so Goku can save him. XD Or so his 8 year old son can in Fat Buus case.

And true, Beerus isn't the worst when compared to most or pretty much all the other gods but meh.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know if you all heard about the SPOILERS (please don't read if you are not curious). Frieza is goingnto Universe 4...he will not be fighting with the Z fighters. Yamcha is also coming to the team, filling in for Frieza. This is a major spoiler. If you get kicked out of the ring or knocked out, you perma die. You are wiped from existence.

Yup, just saw this..."HIM" is definitely Yamcha. Shit. Now I just want to see Frieza get wiped clean from existence. **** him.

It is kind of a betrayal for Frieza fans who wanted to see him have to fight alongside U7, tho to be fair it is within his character to never repent no matter what. Still though, such a slap to the face, and the tradeoff is Yamcha being the final 10th member? I don't have anything against him and don't doubt he would get some deserved fanservice in the tournament, but still a letdown for those who were looking forward to Frieza the way they were.

Maybe I should be glad they didn't have Cell or some other previous bad guy brought back for a day too, lest the writing have them do some shit like this.

To be a bit more specific, the thing that gets me with Frieza was how he was always known as emperor of the universe, or U7 in his case, but now he's gonna betray that same universe he was always ambitious about and jump ships onto universe 4? What would be his end game after the tournament then? Be an eternal ruler of universe 4 like he tried to be for U7? **** him then. If their goal was to make Frieza such a bad guy (not that I would've expected him to become good even if he fought alongside and helped save U7) that even some of his previous fans wouldn't like him now, then I guess they succeeded, to their credit.

Ruling the universe was hardly something Frieza seemed particularly passionate about. Permanently staying out of hell, regardless of the universe he's in, is obviously a much more pressing concern.