Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Fixing his stamina issue aside, I would've assumed Frieza would naturally have more stamina now anyway since he's dead, which worked well with Goku being able to hold the SSJ3 form longer during the Buu arc. Being dead = the body can take more

Sidra seems like the weakest GoD regardless of how he compares to Goku and them, yeah.

Personally, I'm hoping Frieza pulls enough strings to get himself appointed as a god of destruction of another universe, but we'll see. 😛

Originally posted by vansonbee
New power level scaling with Frieza and Vegeta tie for second place. Sidra either a the weakest God or Goku and friends are getting closer to their level.

SSJBKK Goku > True Golden Frieza > SSJB Goku > SSJB Vegeta > Gohan >= Android 17 > Piccolo > Android 18 > Krillin > Roshi ( 😂 ) >= Tien.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
IMO,

SSJBKK Goku > True Golden Frieza > SSJB Goku > SSJB Vegeta > Android 17 > Piccolo > Android 18 > Krillin > Roshi ( 😂 ) >= Tien > Yamcha > Chiaotzu > normal human > Gohan.

Fixed your list a little.

SSB Goku >= SSB Vegeta >= Golden Frieza... Golden Freeza ain't above SSB Vegeta.

Best way to enjoy this show is to just throw away common sense and tiers.

Like...just W/E. Enjoy the ....w/e the **** we're to enjoy during fights lol.

Vegeta might be stronger than Goku now. Talking about both at their standard levels. I'm sure we will see a new transformation soon, probably from Gohan.

So now Frieza doesnt even have to train, all he has to do is hang on a tree and keep thinking about killing Goku and that equals the tons of training he did, not to mention facing Hit, Black....etc...

Would love to see Vegeta get a kaoiken equivalent technique. Not the kaoiken itself, but something that allows him to still more or less be "equal" to Goku. Like maybe Vegeta has mastered Hit's timeskip technique and amplified it via his own fighting style.

Originally posted by Estacado
So now Frieza doesnt even have to train, all he has to do is hang on a tree and keep thinking about killing Goku and that equals the tons of training he did, not to mention facing Hit, Black....etc...

Toriyama was probably reading Breaker: New Waves.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Sidra is not Beerus level. Beerus blew away Sidra's Destruction energy like it was nothing. Rou implies that Sidra wouldn't be able to defeat Frieza easily, if at all. Sidra is undoubtedly the weakest god of Destruction, tbh.

We don't have a confirmation for that, however yes, everything points towards Sidra being the weakest God of Destruction.

As for Goku and Freeza, I think this episode implies that True Golden Freeza is = current serious SSB Goku.
Still, Beerus is clearly above both of them anyway.

Also, I repeat that for me is obvious that Jiren is the mortal who is stronger than his own God of Destruction (who has thus to be Vermouth) who, on turn, should be stronger than Beerus: just see how Goku shits his pants in the Ep 96 preview when Jiren lets his power flow...

Putting together all of this, relating to the anime, I can say that the power chain is:

Jiren ( 👽 ) > Vermouth >= Beerus > Sidra >= ( ">=" because Rou says that killing someone of the caliber of Golden Freeza wouldn't be so easy for Sidra, and SSBKK Goku is even stronger than that) SSBKK Goku > SSB Goku = True Golden Freeza = SSB Vegeta > the rest

It's clear that Goku has to step up his game in order to at least match Jiren, hence why the new transformation which is hinted both in the opening and the closing songs (and I believe that the manga is already giving us hints about what will be the characteristics of this new form).

Overall a fantastic episode, Freeza is really diabolical, even more than usual now that his life is on the line.

PS: but this Liquir in the intro of Episode 96? Simply badass. Liquir has simply been badass from the very beginning. 🤘

Hit?

Originally posted by cdtm
Hit?

Oh yes, forgot about him.
I'd put him behind current Goku and Freeza as far as raw power goes, however we all know that Hit is always dangerous for the way he fights.

Anyway, I'm afraid even him is nothing next to Jiren.

This tournament goes against Hit abilities yet again. He can't kill. He will probably get taken out early.

Anyway, Super got incredibly better over time.
This week episode was like watching a DBZ film: superb animation, perfect pacing.

Just perfect.

I'll let this here, just a proof of what I'm saying:

Wow 😐

About fucking time...

Surprised no one brought up Frieza running into Frost next episode. We get a glimpse of them talking.

Originally posted by carver9
This tournament goes against Hit abilities yet again. He can't kill. He will probably get taken out early.

Originally posted by carver9
Surprised no one brought up Frieza running into Frost next episode. We get a glimpse of them talking.

And yeah, I wasn't bullshitting when I basically said the art/animation of the show had improved a good deal since after the RoF arc and stuff. That pic comparison of Goku vs Frieza is a perfect example.

Liquir and Gin are the dopest Gods of Destruction, imo.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wow 😐

About fucking time...

It had one good episode.

Last ep was a waste except for Freeza and Goku sniping at each other, and every episode before that is a big blur of "AUUGH!", Charlie Brown style.

So it's too early ro say if it's worth sticking with. I'd definately recommend checking the latest episode out though..

It would be pretty funny if Freeza talked Whis into making him the GoD of universe 7.

How hard could it be? He kept asking Goku/Vegeta to become one. He's probably sick of Beerus sleeping all the time, and Freeza's probably destroyed more planets in a year then Beerus does in 70. 🙂