Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by bbrem123633 pages

Yea I agree with this too. You cant really prove one is more canon than the other. He is putting an equal amount of effort into both it seems

Originally posted by bbrem123
Yea seriously. He looks like the most power SSG so far. I pumped to see what they do with SSGSS

We never seen Goku heal from anything without sensu..Now he just says "meh I"m good."

Seems like they are going to make the whole thing with Goku almost dying in RoF not canon. If not then I'm feeling the SSG transformation might be superior to SSGSS. Who knows though.

SSG so far is fighting in space and self healing.

Originally posted by U need Leonard
There really aren't any differences of consequence, it was just something I was curious about should major differences arise. Akira Toriyama has identical credits for both mediums and I had originally assumed the anime was the main canon and Masakazu Katsura was doing whatever he wanted. But as I read now, Toriyama 'is' heavily involved with the manga, he appears to be doing most of the writing.
Both are canon sources. Nobody is arguing that.

However, IF a happening from the manga is overtly contradicted by a happening from the anime(or vice versa), which showing/media should we take as fact, iyo? ie. if Beerus were to destroy a universe in the anime, but did not do so in the manga(or vice versa), which showing would be credited to him..?

I imagine that there are some who will just cherry-pick whatever showing(s) hype their pet character most, but the fact is: we can't have it both ways. Ultimately one media must be held in an [albeit slightly] higher esteem, in case we do run into that sort of issue down the road...

Has this happened before in some other series? If so, I wonder how they handled it.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Has this happened before in some other series? If so, I wonder how they handled it.
If we are now saying that the manga and anime are on equal footing in terms of canonicty, then I'm thinking it might ultimately have to come down to which particular showing happens last--as the most recent info=the most canon... That's typically what we do with comics and whatnot.

...Hopefully it never comes down to that, though. I'd much rather have them continue lining up for the most part. srug

Yea me too. Just seems sloppy if you ask me...

I personally like the manga. And hell with db/dbz the manga was alway the canon source. They should have kept it that way.

Yeah, the manga has a faster pace, and is a lot more action packed. Definitely prefer it over the anime.

Like I suggested earlier, what showings should be used for the characters should depend on what version of the characters are in the thread. Isn't that how it already is for the DBZ anime v manga situation? Unless everyone wants to remove that tiny extra step and just go with one default canon for this forum.

You shouldn't have to specify "manga version" or "anime version" if they are of equal canonicity. You should simply be able to blanket it by saying "BoG-era" or "RoF-era" Goku.

I guess anything from either goes for now? Really makes no sense though.

Originally posted by bbrem123
Seems like they are going to make the whole thing with Goku almost dying in RoF not canon. If not then I'm feeling the SSG transformation might be superior to SSGSS. Who knows though.

SSG so far is fighting in space and self healing.

Yea well he is a god now, so he has surpassed his mortal limits of his body.

Originally posted by Galan007
You shouldn't have to specify "manga version" or "anime version" if they are of equal canonicity. You should simply be able to blanket it by saying "BoG-era" or "RoF-era" Goku.

Why? When was it stated that the anime and manga were based off of one another?

The fact that they're both called "Dragon Ball Super" isn't a dead giveaway that they are based on the same plot, iyo? srsly

Seems like you're making silly excuses just to avoid the obvious/logical question at hand... You can't have your cake and eat it too.

http://killermovies.wikia.com/wiki/Whis

i made a profile for whis.

Homo-ish BDZ characters are always the most entertaining.
Whis, King Cold, Freeza (to a degree)
English dub versions of coarse.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
http://killermovies.wikia.com/wiki/Whis

i made a profile for whis.

nice job looks good

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, the manga has a faster pace, and is a lot more action packed. Definitely prefer it over the anime.

I often think that Manga have a better pacing overall. Basically you go to the Anime when the action scenes are well animated and they look cool and move back into reading format to get through the plot.

Originally posted by Galan007
The fact that they're both called "Dragon Ball Super" isn't a dead giveaway that they are based on the same plot, iyo? srsly

Seems like you're making silly excuses just to avoid the obvious/logical question at hand... You can't have your cake and eat it too.


Dude? Relax. Can't you carry a conversation without being hostile? Just Terrible.

You are clearly confused by what I'm saying, evident by you asking me a question I already answered before you asked. I'm not sure how else to explain what I said to you specifically, since you seem to be the lone soul with issues.

One more time. Last I checked, the DBZ anime and manga are both called "Dragon Ball Z". Since when has the DBZ anime stopped being based on the manga that had the same plot? Do you see the similarities? We separated the canons because one takes priority, factually. We would do the same separation because of the opposite reason, their is no priority, but they are still different since slightly different things have happened.

What you are angry about is essentially akin to saying you have to raise your twins different from your previous two children because they're twins. They might look the same but they are different people, just like your last 2 were different people. They're all your kids, based on the same father and mother, nothing needs to change. Is separate but equal a fake concept, now? Treat the anime vs manga concept the same as you always have, only use one when appropriate, given the stipulations of the thread.

If this does not satisfy you, I don't know what else to say. I can't make the manga less canon for you. You need to take your inappropriate frustrations to a higher power on the matter, because being snappy with me isn't going to get you where you need to go. You need to calm down.

I also want add, if it isn't clear enough; I'm not arguing 'against' (I'm 100% positive I've not done that) any particular method anyone wants to use to specify what feats should be allowed. I'm only dispelling the myth that one medium is less canon than the other. However you people want to tackle that is all up to you. That isn't the sort of thing I care about.