Originally posted by Utrigita
I've seen various people speculating on Cell being the one to might join in instead, which I wouldn't mind at all. Frieza has never been introduced in the Manga, him training and having a golden form would seem odd and out of place. Cell who still consists of Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo DNA, would it at least be consider plausible to have continued training, in some way, shape or form. But we will see how it goes.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZThe very fact that #17 can contend with current SSJ3 Goku is still absolutely f*cking insane. Evidently fighting human poachers for a few years is nearly as effective as training with Whis... 😑
So in the manga, Android 17 is still powerful as shit. He was beating around SSJ3 pretty good, though admittedly it seemed as though Goku wasn't really trying to fight back whilst in SSJ3.Also can't forget that Oob was introduced.
All in all, I continue to believe the manga is better than the anime.
Oob was mentioned in the anime, but I'm glad the manga actually depicted him -- now I'm certain he won't be forgotten. After all, if Freeza was able to achieve God-level power with a little training, just imagine what Oob is capable of...
The manga is a LOT better than the anime. It has added SO much depth to characters that desperately needed it -- Jiren is a prime example. 👆
Originally posted by UtrigitaThe manga did reintroduce Freeza in the 3-part RoF mini, which tied directly into the film.
Frieza has never been introduced in the Manga
Cell would be cool and all, but I just don't see it happening. Aside from the fact that RoF Freeza has already been introduced in the manga, he has also been integral in the anime's rendition of the ToP.
...And Freeza is also a LOT more powerful than Cell would be right now.
New Dragon Ball movie on the way.
Originally posted by Astner
New Dragon Ball movie on the way.
-I liked Gohan getting a moment to shine over Goku and Vegeta for once. Other than that, it was a filler.
-Looks like at least one of the Androids will get eliminated next episode, which is sad(they've been the damn MVPs of this thing, lol.)
-Apparently U3's 'big secret' is that Koichiarator will become organic(esque) via some sort of transformation process, and gain a MASSIVE powerup:
*Judging by the previews, this 'Super-Koichiarator' is evidently is powerful enough to trounce most of U7's team(inc. SSG Goku) -- even Freeza will enter the fray against it.
-10mins remain in the ToP
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They're conserving power/stamina for the final showdown, which is a good decision from a tactical POV. Given the stakes, there's no reason to fight(and burn energy) if you don't absolutely *have* to.
...Sharp contrast to Goku, for example, who has gone around trying to pick fights with everyone he's come across, like some drunk/belligerent asshole at a dive bar. ermm
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
lolWas waiting for universe 3 to get erased this episode but turned out to be more padding. Like the final merged enemy though; gave a Super Android 13 kind of feel/vibe. Speaking of Androids, looks like 17 and/or 18 will be going down soon as expected...
Total padding, against literally faceless enemies.
Originally posted by Galan007
The manga did reintroduce Freeza in the 3-part RoF mini, which tied directly into the film.Cell would be cool and all, but I just don't see it happening. Aside from the fact that RoF Freeza has already been introduced in the manga, he has also been integral in the anime's rendition of the ToP.
...And Freeza is also a LOT more powerful than Cell would be right now.
Ahh Cool, I wasn't aware they had done that. I just noticed how in the Dragonball Super manga, they skipped entirely over "Freeza getting back for revenge",and went straight to the 6 vs 7 universe act, but that would make sense since they made the 3 part mini.
Edit: Having reread the first issues, they do mention Freeza and that they might need to revive him, just before we are introduced to Champa in Dragonball Super #4, that is it.
They so far haven't shied away from changing the manga in relation to the anime, but changing to Cell instead of Freeza might be to drastic a change.
If they hadn't reintroduced him in the 3 part mini, and made no notion of him being revived previously and having trained for four months? I disagree, Cell would then be vastly more powerful. As of now with the three part mini, yes then Freeza is obviously stronger, i agree.
Beerus hakai!
Originally posted by Galan007I know they mention Freeza fight in the manga, but I'm not sure the RoF manga is actually part of the current DB Super. Cause it's not in the graphic novel collected editions.
The manga did reintroduce Freeza in the 3-part RoF mini, which tied directly into the film.Cell would be cool and all, but I just don't see it happening. Aside from the fact that RoF Freeza has already been introduced in the manga, he has also been integral in the anime's rendition of the ToP.
...And Freeza is also a LOT more powerful than Cell would be right now.
Cell would be a lot cooler than Freeza to bring back, but the Cell seen being defeated by Mr. Satan is about all we are going to get I bet. It would be too odd a change.
Originally posted by UtrigitaIt's a bit more than that. DBS manga #4 depicts Sorbet + Tagoma + Shisami + the rest of Freeza's immediate cronies from RoF, when they initially plotted to find the Dragon Balls and resurrect Freeza himself:
Edit: Having reread the first issues, they do mention Freeza and that they might need to revive him, just before we are introduced to Champa in Dragonball Super #4, that is it.
It's basically an immediate precursor to the events of the 3-part RoF mini. Also keep in mind that the RoF film itself is still very much canon to the series.
Originally posted by KentoThe RoF manga was still written/illustrated by Toyotaro, overseen by Toriyama, serialized in V-Jump, and published by Shueisha Inc... Just like the DBS manga. Also keep in mind that the RoF manga was actually released months before the DBS manga was published. I'm betting that's why the DBS manga skipped-over the RoF arc -- it had already been done previously.
I know they mention Freeza fight in the manga, but I'm not sure the RoF manga is actually part of the current DB Super. Cause it's not in the graphic novel collected editions.Cell would be a lot cooler than Freeza to bring back, but the Cell seen being defeated by Mr. Satan is about all we are going to get I bet. It would be too odd a change.
Given all of the above, there is no reason at all to doubt its canonicity to the manga.
Yeah, I would MUCH rather see Cell than Freeza in the manga... I just don't see it happening.
Originally posted by Galan007Sure, it's written by Toyotaro, but it stops with Final Form Freeza against base Goku. It's not even a full story arc more just a story to provide hype for the movie without spoiling the ending. So it's canonicity is very dubious at best. It's half a manga if so, and its not included in the volume 1 or 2 of the series either.
[B The RoF manga was still written/illustrated by Toyotaro, overseen by Toriyama, serialized in V-Jump, and published by Shueisha Inc... Just like the DBS manga. Also keep in mind that the RoF manga was actually released months before the DBS manga was published. I'm betting that's why the DBS manga skipped-over the RoF arc -- it had already been done previously.Given all of the above, there is no reason at all to doubt its canonicity to the manga.
Yeah, I would MUCH rather see Cell than Freeza in the manga... I just don't see it happening. [/B]
Originally posted by Galan007
👆They're conserving power/stamina for the final showdown, which is a good decision from a tactical POV. Given the stakes, there's no reason to fight(and burn energy) if you don't absolutely *have* to.
...Sharp contrast to Goku, for example, who has gone around trying to pick fights with everyone he's come across, like some drunk/belligerent asshole at a dive bar. ermm
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