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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Sounds like. We would've remembered if that was actually stated.

It's just Crazy Carv being Crazy Carv.

Don't eat the buttercups, Carv.

AuraAngel Hegemon

Originally posted by Galan007
I get where you're coming from, but if that were the case Gohan would be a SSB as well...

He’s a filthy half-breed. uhuh

Yamcha Desert Bandit

New OPM/DB crossover chapter out, it's sorta like the ROF arc except it's Cooler returning after a year of training.
https://m.imgur.com/t/fanart/y3efu

Here are the previous installments for anyone who's curious.
https://m.imgur.com/t/fanart/xRQEa

cdtm Restricted

The offical crossover! Awesome.

Yamcha Desert Bandit

Originally posted by Yamcha
New OPM/DB crossover chapter out, it's sorta like the ROF arc except it's Cooler returning after a year of training.
https://m.imgur.com/t/fanart/y3efu

Here's the rest of the fight after that chapter btw, couldn't find a linked version so apologies ahead of time.
youtu.be/lkFCKQ-f_pg

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Sounds like. We would've remembered if that was actually stated.

It was said before Goku and Vegeta training.

HueyFreeman Super Fighting Robot

Originally posted by cdtm
He means the Majin powerup.
But again, Vegeta had to scam that. Goku gets all his powerups with no strings attached, while Vegeta has to earn them by selling his soul to an evil wizard or bribe an outer god with goodies. (Or marry an Earth woman he happened to knock up. 😛 )

I always took majin vegeta to be a play on the fact that vegeta needs goku. Goku would have become stronger no matter what but vegeta needs goku as a motivating force to become better. He needs to feel inadequate or he stagnates. Theres a reason vegetas smallest increases in power happened when goku wasnt around. He improved the least in that 7 year gap goku was dead .

Inedian Senior Member

It's pretty simple... Goku is and has always been a better fighter, he is a brilliant fighter... and not only that, also more powerful.

Only Black/Zamasu is a better fighter.

Estacado Legendary

The problem with Vegeta is that he mostly relies on brute force and not tactics.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Estacado
The problem with Vegeta is that he mostly relies on brute force and not tactics.

To be fair tactics never really mattered in Z

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Inedian
It's pretty simple... Goku is and has always been a better fighter, he is a brilliant fighter... and not only that, also more powerful.
Only Black/Zamasu is a better fighter.

Black sucks and would've been knocked out during the onset of the battle due to his arrogance.

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Well at least the animation itself is no longer abysmal in ToP...though still no real stakes.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well at least the animation itself is no longer abysmal in ToP...though still no real stakes.

What anime is real stakes to you?

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by carver9
Black sucks

Inedian Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Black sucks and would've been knocked out during the onset of the battle due to his arrogance.

Hahahahahaha

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by Inedian
Nope... just beacuse of that power-scaling that's happening, that's an excuse that they will use.... ''Ah, Beerus is still far more powerful than them.''.

Cutting off Beerus’ supply of pudding and other earthly goods would give him enough motivation to finish mastering Ultra Instinct after Goku does I suppose but beyond that, IDK.

Also, I’ll never fully understand what you see in Black/Zamasu. Sure, with the crazy haxx way zenkais work now, Black’s power would increase over the course of the ToP like Goku and Vegeta’s does now, but as a tactical fighter, Black/Zamasu’s not all that. If his stabby ki blades don’t pierce Jiren, then he’s not left with that much.

Inedian Senior Member

Ridley_Prime

Also, I’ll never fully understand what you see in Black/Zamasu. Sure, with the crazy haxx way zenkais work now, Black’s power would increase over the course of the ToP like Goku and Vegeta’s does now, but as a tactical fighter, Black/Zamasu’s not all that. If his stabby ki blades don’t pierce Jiren, then he’s not left with that much.

Well, his zenkais and increasing power clearly easily outclassed Goku, no contest. About tactic itself, he didn't show much tactic (except them two working together) and I didn't mean as a tactic, but as pure natural talent. I mean Black was really a talent as a fighter. He was simply more perceptible, a better, sharper feeling. I think Gohan is like that, surpassing Goku in that department, a greater talent, simply more perceptible and Goku is above Vegeta here.

Jiren is a monster and I hope nor Goku nor Vegeta beats him and I hope he doesn't become a joke after some time.

Estacado Legendary

Black became a retarded character for me right after he pulled that scythe/ evil clone bullshit out of his ass which didnt make any sense at all.

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
What anime is real stakes to you?

Something where the ultimate fate of the characters or universe where they reside isn't already known because the ending was made over 2 decades ago.

So Magi or FMA.

Yamcha Desert Bandit

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