That being said, why would you assume e-celebs gleaned more out of Dragonball than the average nerd from here? It's not like there's infinite DB knowledge out there that puts someone above a kimono wearing weeb like Galan for instance.
That's for passer-by fans. Not for someone who tries to eat like Goku and has never kissed his wife's head lips.
I wouldn't put the knowledge above people who already believe it like Skillz or ILS for instance on that note. Different strokes for different folks. Dudes want to dude and put their dude over other dudes. A dudetube video about the dudes isn't going to present any logical dude things dudes from here haven't already thought of in their dude heads. Besides Carver
Geekdom is only good for his DB insider info, tbh. Aside from that, I find myself disagreeing with quite a bit of what he has to say.
Anyway, the problem with platforms like YouTube is that it allows people to present their perception of information completely unchecked... And as long as it is presented well and said with conviction, the carvers among us will buy it as 100% fact, even if the real evidence tells us that it's not entirely accurate.
"The guy is a pro YouTuber with a bunch of subscribers... Everything he says MUST be true!!!111!!!!!!11!"
Originally posted by One Big Mob
That being said, why would you assume e-celebs gleaned more out of Dragonball than the average nerd from here? It's not like there's infinite DB knowledge out there that puts someone above a kimono wearing weeb like Galan for instance.That's for passer-by fans. Not for someone who tries to eat like Goku and has never kissed his wife's head lips.
I wouldn't put the knowledge above people who already believe it like Skillz or ILS for instance on that note. Different strokes for different folks. Dudes want to dude and put their dude over other dudes. A dudetube video about the dudes isn't going to present any logical dude things dudes from here haven't already thought of in their dude heads. Besides Carver
MUI Goku just has bigger feats than Gogeta looking back on it. All the gods stood up when Goku hit it, Beerus was losing his shit. He wasn’t losing his shit over Jiren really or Broly.
Originally posted by BrolyBlackDepends how you rate Broly in comparison to Jiren.
MUI Goku just has bigger feats than Gogeta looking back on it.
Originally posted by BrolyBlackThe GoDs were amazed that Goku --a mere mortal-- was able to unlock a form/technique that not even they can easily attain. Keep in mind that most Gods believe mortals are inferior to them across the board, so some random Saiyan pulling off MUI would be quite a surprise.
All the gods stood up when Goku hit it, Beerus was losing his shit.
...And Beerus didn't lose his shit when Goku activated MUI. He basically just confirmed it with Whis and that was that:
https://i.imgur.com/iSvMM74.jpg
Seemed pretty impartial about it, tbh. /shrug
Originally posted by BrolyBlackTbf, we never saw Beerus during the Gogeta/Broly fight, so we have absolutely no clue what his reaction was to their powers.
He wasn't losing his shit over Jiren really or Broly.
Originally posted by Galan007
Depends how you rate Broly in comparison to Jiren.The GoDs were amazed that Goku --a mere mortal-- was able to unlock a form/technique that not even they can easily attain. Keep in mind that most Gods believe mortals are inferior to them across the board, so some random Saiyan pulling off MUI would be quite a surprise.
...And Beerus didn't lose his shit when Goku activated MUI. He basically just confirmed it with Whis and that was that:
https://i.imgur.com/iSvMM74.jpgSeemed pretty impartial about it, tbh. /shrug
Tbf, we never saw Beerus during the Gogeta/Broly fight, so we have absolutely no clue what his reaction was to their powers.
Arnt all the gods mortal as well before they become GoDs? Like if Goku or Vegeta become ones they won’t be considered mortal anymore right?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZYas queen. I think bifurcating the manga and anime is an extremely important distinction when discussing the Broly movie.
I really do think there is a LOT to talk about with the relationship in power between Broly-Jiren-MUI-Gogeta-Beerus that has multiple sides to it, especially when differentiating between manga and anime.
For instance, if we assume the manga, then Goku has seen every GoD go all out fighting to the death, using their best techniques, Beerus using Ultra Instinct and so on. So when he says Broly is "probably" more powerful than Beerus, after having fought him personally, he knows damn well what he's talking about.
But if we assume the anime, then I would actually say the opposite. Goku has no idea what an all out Beerus or any other Hakaishin looks like, so when he says Broly "probably" is more powerful than Beerus, it means he has no idea what he's talking about and even then he isn't sure about it.
Anime, I'd lean Beerus > Broly, but Manga, I'd go Broly > Beerus.
As for Jiren? I think in the anime there is a hell of a lot more credence to the idea he is above Beerus and Broly. Him and MUI just jump too many levels above Hakaishin level over the course of their fight for it to be possible they are sub Beerus for me. If we go with that, then what that means is we definitely know Jiren and MUI are above Beerus, but Goku only thinks it's a probability that Broly is above Beerus based on a very ignorant understanding of Beerus' true power.
But in the manga? It doesn't seem as clear cut to me. I don't remember reading any statements in the manga proclaiming Jiren to be above all the GoDs (nor MUI Goku) for that matter, in fact, Goku was stated to be at something of a disadvantage using MUI because he didn't have any training with it. His body was reacting on it's own, but due to his inexperience fighting in that state, he was liable to make mistakes.
So ultimately, in the anime, MUI Goku and Jiren are supreme, followed by Beerus, Gogeta and Broly.
In the manga, Gogeta and Broly are supreme, Beerus is in the middle again, and then around that ballpark is Jiren and MUI Goku, if not below him.
If anyone can refine those rough thoughts with some scathing criticism or insight that'd be swell.
Originally posted by Galan007
I just can't get over Belmond's voice in the English dub:😂
Im loving this english dub
Originally posted by BestDebaterEveralso depends what the movie was based on- anime or manga.
Yas queen. I think bifurcating the manga and anime is an extremely important distinction when discussing the Broly movie.For instance, if we assume the manga, then Goku has seen every GoD go all out fighting to the death, using their best techniques, Beerus using Ultra Instinct and so on. So when he says Broly is "probably" more powerful than Beerus, after having fought him personally, he knows damn well what he's talking about.
But if we assume the anime, then I would actually say the opposite. Goku has no idea what an all out Beerus or any other Hakaishin looks like, so when he says Broly "probably" is more powerful than Beerus, it means he has no idea what he's talking about and even then he isn't sure about it.
Anime, I'd lean Beerus > Broly, but Manga, I'd go Broly > Beerus.
As for Jiren? I think in the anime there is a hell of a lot more credence to the idea he is above Beerus and Broly. Him and MUI just jump too many levels above Hakaishin level over the course of their fight for it to be possible they are sub Beerus for me. If we go with that, then what that means is we definitely know Jiren and MUI are above Beerus, but Goku only thinks it's a probability that Broly is above Beerus based on a very ignorant understanding of Beerus' true power.
But in the manga? It doesn't seem as clear cut to me. I don't remember reading any statements in the manga proclaiming Jiren to be above all the GoDs (nor MUI Goku) for that matter, in fact, Goku was stated to be at something of a disadvantage using MUI because he didn't have any training with it. His body was reacting on it's own, but due to his inexperience fighting in that state, he was liable to make mistakes.
So ultimately, in the anime, MUI Goku and Jiren are supreme, followed by Beerus, Gogeta and Broly.
In the manga, Gogeta and Broly are supreme, Beerus is in the middle again, and then around that ballpark is Jiren and MUI Goku, if not below him.
If anyone can refine those rough thoughts with some scathing criticism or insight that'd be swell.
Originally posted by Galan007
I just can't get over Belmond's voice in the English dub:😂
That's funnier then just about anything in Abridged.
